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You mean THIS TCL? https://ads.tcl.com/ https://ads.tcl.com/ Or THIS Hisense? https://nexxen.com/acr-data/ https://nexxen.com/acr-data/ They all use Automatic

You mean THIS TCL? https://ads.tcl.com/ https://ads.tcl.com/ Or THIS Hisense? https://nexxen.com/acr-data/ https://nexxen.com/acr-data/ They all use Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) and collect profiling data to feed into an Ad service offering. Samsung started this and is now a leading supplier for targeted advertising on TVs (because old serialized TV doesn't have such an option), this is forcing all the brands to follow and do the same, because: #A: it creates a revenue stream based on active devices (like Apple/Google has), not just at the time of sales, and #B: their business partners now demand it (big electronics chains won't sell a TV which will affect their targeted ad promotions) It would be much more valuable to have proper journalists (sorry) to write an investigative report on this whole Ad-targeting industry, to create pressure not just on some TV-vendors but on all home appliances (including cable-company set-top-boxes, which do exactly the same btw). The only way out of this is to increase public pressure to the point that a regulation (a LAW!) is drafted and enforced.

jimt1234 28d ago
I just recently learned about ACR. My first thought was to set up an LG TV in the basement and stream non-stop p0rn for 3 months or so. Then see what ads start showing up for me. Like, I wonder if there's a target group called "Creeps addicted to p0rn."
- rickdeckard 28d ago
  just to clarify: ACR is actually not taking a screenshot, it calculates a fingerprint of the picture and sends it to a server. The fingerprint is then checked against a database of some common content, to understand whether you're watching some Movie/Series on DVD/BluRay or with an external set-top-box. Not sure if porn is even fingerprinted in that database, would probably be 100% more fingerprints... /s
  - mitxela 27d ago
    Watch Netflix Cuties on loop? Since it's Netflix it's probably in the database, yet the internet believes it's legalized child porn. I wouldn't know of course.
    - jimt1234 27d ago
      That makes me wonder: If someone's ACR-enabled TV shows a lot of CSAM, are the cops gonna come kick down their door?
      - mitxela 26d ago
        No, as the point was already made, illegal CSAM isn't in the ACR database.
hn_submit 27d ago
There are dozens of TV manufacturers in China and the competition is intense. I'm hoping that one manufacturer will come up with the USP to make a TV that doesn't spy on you, doesn't show ads and uses secure software like a microkernel operating system. Oh and a switching power supply that doesn't fail after two years.

jimt1234 28d ago

I just recently learned about ACR. My first thought was to set up an LG TV in the basement and stream non-stop p0rn for 3 months or so. Then see what ads start showing up for me. Like, I wonder if there's a target group called "Creeps addicted to p0rn."

rickdeckard 28d ago
just to clarify: ACR is actually not taking a screenshot, it calculates a fingerprint of the picture and sends it to a server. The fingerprint is then checked against a database of some common content, to understand whether you're watching some Movie/Series on DVD/BluRay or with an external set-top-box. Not sure if porn is even fingerprinted in that database, would probably be 100% more fingerprints... /s
- mitxela 27d ago
  Watch Netflix Cuties on loop? Since it's Netflix it's probably in the database, yet the internet believes it's legalized child porn. I wouldn't know of course.
  - jimt1234 27d ago
    That makes me wonder: If someone's ACR-enabled TV shows a lot of CSAM, are the cops gonna come kick down their door?
    - mitxela 26d ago
      No, as the point was already made, illegal CSAM isn't in the ACR database.

hn_submit 27d ago

There are dozens of TV manufacturers in China and the competition is intense. I'm hoping that one manufacturer will come up with the USP to make a TV that doesn't spy on you, doesn't show ads and uses secure software like a microkernel operating system. Oh and a switching power supply that doesn't fail after two years.