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naishoya was fairly damning of all other methods of living, so naturally I'll be quite overt in my response. And almost everyone was a farmer until the last 10

by b112 26d ago

naishoya was fairly damning of all other methods of living, so naturally I'll be quite overt in my response. And almost everyone was a farmer until the last 100+ years. The only way to generate enough food, without machinery, was for all to take part in its creation. People were more used to having hands in dirt. That doesn't mean unclean, but I do find all city dwellers more "fussy" about dirt. They take traditions made for pragmatism (keep dirt off the floor, eg tidiness), and evolve it to fussiness(eg, contaminated).

samus 26d ago
Getting one's hands dirty has little to do with cleanliness inside the home. Do you think the Japanese didn't have to do farmwork? Contamination is not a modern concept either. Cue to how many religions have quite sharply defined criteria for ritual cleanliness.
- b112 25d ago
  Getting one's hands dirty has little to do with cleanliness inside the home. Do you think the Japanese didn't have to do farmwork? Thank you for agreeing with precisely what I already said. Contamination is not a modern concept either. Cue to how many religions have quite sharply defined criteria for ritual cleanliness. I didn't say, elude, or mention that it was. Instead, I said 'city dwellers' are afraid of dirt.
  - samus 23d ago
    > > Getting one's hands dirty has little to do with cleanliness inside the home. Do you think the Japanese didn't have to do farmwork? > Thank you for agreeing with precisely what I already said. Except that the discussion was never about that, but about cleanliness inside the house. You then went off a tangent with that BBC article. > I didn't say, elude, or mention that it was. Instead, I said 'city dwellers' are afraid of dirt. And the discussion was also never about people afraid of dirt. That's something you brought up to "muddy the water" and lead the discussion astray.

by b112 26d ago

samus 26d ago

Getting one's hands dirty has little to do with cleanliness inside the home. Do you think the Japanese didn't have to do farmwork? Contamination is not a modern concept either. Cue to how many religions have quite sharply defined criteria for ritual cleanliness.

b112 25d ago
Getting one's hands dirty has little to do with cleanliness inside the home. Do you think the Japanese didn't have to do farmwork? Thank you for agreeing with precisely what I already said. Contamination is not a modern concept either. Cue to how many religions have quite sharply defined criteria for ritual cleanliness. I didn't say, elude, or mention that it was. Instead, I said 'city dwellers' are afraid of dirt.
- samus 23d ago
  > > Getting one's hands dirty has little to do with cleanliness inside the home. Do you think the Japanese didn't have to do farmwork? > Thank you for agreeing with precisely what I already said. Except that the discussion was never about that, but about cleanliness inside the house. You then went off a tangent with that BBC article. > I didn't say, elude, or mention that it was. Instead, I said 'city dwellers' are afraid of dirt. And the discussion was also never about people afraid of dirt. That's something you brought up to "muddy the water" and lead the discussion astray.