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Coincidentally I was trying this out yesterday as a potential option for automated porn filtering for the imageboard that I administrate. It is very lightweight
by DC-3 25d ago
Coincidentally I was trying this out yesterday as a potential option for automated porn filtering for the imageboard that I administrate. It is very lightweight which is good but the performance is not great. Some weird false positives and it does a bad job with flat chested women which is very concerning to me because it leads me to think it won’t be effective against CSAM.
- instagraham 25d agoit is amusing that a model from a country that has banned porn would ever be developed. Wouldn't there be hurdles for them to access "data" at every stage? (I know they must have used a VPN for training but it does seem like an added hoop. OFC the UAE's block is also not particularly thorough.) You'd assume such models would do better in a laissez-faire nsfw environment than in a walled garden of relatively-less sin.
- dfish 25d agoIt's for research purposes :wink: :wink:
- sillyfluke 25d agoIt's a story as old as time so I'm frankly less amused by it. The old school censors always saw every "data" that was taboo under the sun prior to censoring it for public consumption.
- waffleiron 25d agoThere are plenty western CSAM detection models
- DC-3 25d agoCan you suggest a good one?
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- gumby 25d agoHave you been to the UAE? Sure t the beach there re women in burkinis and more, but also women in two piece bikinis.
- wolvoleo 25d agoThere's a big difference between international jersetters partying in Dubai and locals. The jersetters are basically exempted from the strict laws because they bring in money. Alcohol is illegal there, homosexuality is, even unmarried sex is. I certainly will never visit there even if they choose not to apply those laws to me as a visitor.
- wolvoleo 24d agoSorry for some reason my device keeps correcting 'jetsetters' to 'jersetters' :?
- yreg 24d agoIt is a bit less strict than you think. It's not just about the police giving the tourists some leeway. - Alcohol is fully legal for non-muslims, even if they have residency (or in rare cases citizenship). - Unmarried cohabitation is fully legal, unmarried sex is mostly legal. It can only be prosecuted when a partner is cheating and their wife/husband files a complaint. Or when a minor is involved and their legal guardian files a complaint. On the other hand homosexual and transgender expressions are still illegal, like you say.
- figmert 25d agoWhat a strange Islamophobic comment to make. You should probably go out a little more.
- echelon_musk 25d ago
- unglaublich 25d agoI guess CSAM detection will remain hard as the training data raises so many ethical concerns. I wonder if there's a way in which we can forward-hash sensitive material like CSAM and train a classifier that only consumes the 'hashed' version of the material for training and detection.
- tao_oat 25d agoI believe this is how many CSAM classifiers work. There isn't a simple legal avenue to host CSAM for classifier training, for good reason.
- PxldLtd 25d agoThis is already done, there's hashed indexes of known CSAM and you can apply vector steering to the latent space to shift detections to trigger on CSAM material. You can also use two detectors for age estimation and a separate one for nudity and use them in combination.
- maaaaattttt 25d agoVery naive approach but wouldn't training a model on a few specific buckets like "someone is naked", "image is explicit" and "there is a child" in the picture, would do the job without having to train explicitely on CSAM? If the model returns both a high probability of "there is a child" and a high probability of any other bucket than this image is classified as CSAM. It'd be high recall,low precision but one would be on a rather safe side.
- GoblinSlayer 25d agoShare the training data :)
- DC-3 24d agoIt's just porn I downloaded from Reddit. I don't know if you're aware but there's lots of it and it's free.