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With IMG PowerVR mostly gone from Mediatek roadmap. Which means ARM Mali is effectively the GPU IP on Android, excluding Qualcomm Adreno which its market contin
by ksec 1mo ago
With IMG PowerVR mostly gone from Mediatek roadmap. Which means ARM Mali is effectively the GPU IP on Android, excluding Qualcomm Adreno which its market continue to shrink and concentrate on premium segment.
I wonder how far or how good Mali is now compared to others. I wish Chip and Cheese do compassion on GPU as well.
- teki_one 1mo agoGoogle just switched to PowerVR, didn't they?
- throwa356262 1mo agoGiven the horrible GPU performance as well as thermal issues in Tensor G5 and G6, Google will have to switch back to Arm in G7. Example benchmark showing how extremely far Google is behind: GeekBench 6 Compute Score (GPU): Xring O3. 36901. (the GPU in this announcement) Snapdragon 8 Elite G5 27501. (Adreno 840) Dimensity 9500M. 23753. (Mali-G1 Ultra MP11). Tensor G6. 6216. (PowerVR CXTP-48-1536)
- MindSpunk 1mo agoThe Pixel 10 and 11 GPUs are offensively bad. Not only are the Power VR GPUs slow, and less capable feature wise than Mali and Adreno (Xclipse is still around too!), but the tile Google put in the Pixel 11 is actually an _older_ design than what they put in the Pixel 10. They just clocked it higher to make up the performance difference. And then Google has the gall to charge basically flagship prices for their under powered junk. Personally I don't buy flagship phones because I don't use their full compute capabilities anyway, but a Pixel 11 would cost 2x what I paid for my Pixel 8. For 0 GPU performance improvement.
- Fr0styMatt88 29d agoI have fond memories from back when Pixels were actually flagship. The Pixel 2 is my nostalgic pinnacle. I'd totally forgotten about that squeeze gesture until I got my old Pixel 2 out to erase.
- ahknight 29d agoBack when the point of Pixel was to tell the world: THIS is what you can do with Android. Then Samsung got the message, ran with it, and Google went "Ehh, we're good now."
- ksec 29d ago>Xring O3. I just can't wait to see it being tested in an actual phone. So far all the data are done on development board. If they are really as good as everything we have read so far, both Mediatek and Qualcomm are in big trouble.
- throwa356262 29d agoThis Xiaomis second or third chip ever so I assume there will be problems.
- my123 29d agoit's available in retail (the foldable phone variant) in mainland China since today
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- rjzzleep 29d agoWhy did that happen?
- pjmlp 1mo agoIf only that would mean a better driver story across devices and Android releases. Unless it is a Pixel or Samsung Sxy flagship device, chances are the driver, which will never get updated, it a box full of interesting developer moments. Just go to chrome://gpu to check the amount of workarounds enabled in Chrome alone.
- catchnear4321 29d ago> …a box full of interesting developer moments. thank you, will be using this, it’s far more accurate than simply throwing the devs under the bus and ignoring all the unspoken context of said moments, while not papering over the… interesting developer moments.
- MindSpunk 29d agoSince when do Samsung ship driver updates? I'm being a bit hyperbolic but from my experience Samsung don't ship them very often either. To Google's credit, the Pixels get them quite frequently. Samsung is still better than most other Android vendors, who are somehow even worse. It's depressing how bad the drivers are. They have 0 market pressure to improve the quality, unlike PC where the whiniest group on the internet (gamers on reddit) will crucify you for driver problems. I've spent too much time investigating and implementing workarounds. Though it does pay my bills...
- pjmlp 29d agoSince you own a S series device, and it gets shipped alongside OS updates. Other Samsung devices aren't so lucky. PC drivers are equally as bad when using laptops by the way. While you can try to use the plain drivers from Intel, AMD and NVidia, usually the ones in the laptops have custom changes made by the OEM for the laptop motherboard design, and you can get into issues like thermal handling, when not using the drivers provided by the OEM update services.
- dbcooper 29d agoSamsung is using AMD in upcoming premium chips? Small market share again.
- Alpha3031 29d agoAlso mid-range, A57 uses Xclipse 550 (RDNA 3) and A37 uses previous generation Exynos with Xclipse 530 IIRC.
- nubinetwork 29d agoPanthor is supposedly pretty good, it's no rtx, but people do game on them.
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