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I’m not exactly a fan of certain policies being pushed in the US but aligning with China is a bad idea. Chances are if you’re is disagreement with US policies y

I’m not exactly a fan of certain policies being pushed in the US but aligning with China is a bad idea. Chances are if you’re is disagreement with US policies you’re going to be in disagreement with China’s policies even more.

ericmay 25d ago
The Canadians who think this or more is a good idea have lost their minds. Forget that China, an authoritarian regime that is doing things like routinely stealing secrets from western countries [1] and is focused on destroying European economies ability to manufacture goods, it is a practically stupid thing to do because holding talks with China while the US, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and more as the article points out are actively training (obviously all mentioned parties and more conduct additional training annually) to potentially fight a war with China to defend another democracy looks incredibly bad. Canada stands with China against the US, Australia, Korea, Japan, New Zealand [2], and the Philippines? Yikes! [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-09-07/chinese-chip-spy-suspect-arrested-before-brussels-beijing-flight https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-09-07/chinese-c... [2] https://www.wsj.com/world/oceania/new-zealand-military-china-2a776b24?st=m9YVmS&reflink=article_copyURL_share https://www.wsj.com/world/oceania/new-zealand-military-china...
- watwut 25d ago
  Canada needs to stand against the country openly talking about annexarion.
  - ericmay 25d ago
    And stand against Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Korea, the Philippines, Taiwan, and others? China isn’t capable of providing any security guarantees to Canada. What’s the point here besides pissing everyone off? It is a very poor diplomatic move in my view.
    - beloch 25d ago
      https://www.scmp.com/news/us/article/3336686/senior-us-and-chinese-defence-officials-meet-military-military-dialogue-continues https://www.scmp.com/news/us/article/3336686/senior-us-and-c... The U.S. has had military talks with China. They probably weren't very productive, because Hegseth, but are you going to go out and say the U.S. is now against the U.S. because the U.S.'s military has had talks with China's? Militaries talk to each other to avoid misunderstandings and unintended escalation. Sometimes it's even about coordinating things like disaster response.
      - ericmay 25d ago
        Well no because that wouldn’t make sense. I didn’t accuse Canada of going against Canada’s interests simply by virtue of having talks though I think ultimately such talks are likely to. Canada is not able to project military power and has no ability to fight a war against China so I’m skeptical that these conversations make a lot of sense, well, given the timing. And of course with many Canadiens seeming to think they are “going to turn to China” in light of American tariffs or something. But the headline and meeting with Chinese military leaders while your allies are conducting defensive operations looks kind of bad. At least in my option. > They probably weren't very productive, because Hegseth Hegseth is a moron who shouldn’t have been hired and should be fired immediately, but if conversations weren’t productive maybe that’s China’s fault instead.
        watwut 25d ago
        Why would Canada need the ability to fight against China for security talks to make sense? Ukraine was having security talks all around middle east, even made agreements and they also dont have ability or wish to attack Saudi. > meeting with Chinese military leaders while your allies are conducting defensive operations Which Canadian ally is doimg defensive operations? I mean EU against USA did around Greenland, but who else? > egseth is a moron who shouldn’t have been hired and should be fired immediately, but if conversations weren’t productive maybe that’s China’s fault instead. Why would it be Chinas fault? By all we have seen America is impossible to make agreements against and Hegseth is incompetent. Why blaming China here?
beloch 25d ago
The trouble is that the U.S. is threatening annexation and waging trade war on the West while pulling its military assets (e.g. All carriers) out of Asia with no diplomatic successes to keep the area stable. There's a power vacuum around Taiwan now. Middle powers have to step in, and this is an example of that. This is not Canada siding with China. It's a middle power engaging with China to find common ground before China decides that power vacuum is too juicy to resist. Canada has a border on the Pacific too, after all.
jakeinspace 25d ago
China hasn't invaded another country this century.

ericmay 25d ago

The Canadians who think this or more is a good idea have lost their minds. Forget that China, an authoritarian regime that is doing things like routinely stealing secrets from western countries [1] and is focused on destroying European economies ability to manufacture goods, it is a practically stupid thing to do because holding talks with China while the US, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and more as the article points out are actively training (obviously all mentioned parties and more conduct additional training annually) to potentially fight a war with China to defend another democracy looks incredibly bad. Canada stands with China against the US, Australia, Korea, Japan, New Zealand [2], and the Philippines? Yikes! [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-09-07/chinese-chip-spy-suspect-arrested-before-brussels-beijing-flight https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-09-07/chinese-c... [2] https://www.wsj.com/world/oceania/new-zealand-military-china-2a776b24?st=m9YVmS&reflink=article_copyURL_share https://www.wsj.com/world/oceania/new-zealand-military-china...

watwut 25d ago
Canada needs to stand against the country openly talking about annexarion.
- ericmay 25d ago
  And stand against Australia, New Zealand, Japan, Korea, the Philippines, Taiwan, and others? China isn’t capable of providing any security guarantees to Canada. What’s the point here besides pissing everyone off? It is a very poor diplomatic move in my view.
  - beloch 25d ago
    https://www.scmp.com/news/us/article/3336686/senior-us-and-chinese-defence-officials-meet-military-military-dialogue-continues https://www.scmp.com/news/us/article/3336686/senior-us-and-c... The U.S. has had military talks with China. They probably weren't very productive, because Hegseth, but are you going to go out and say the U.S. is now against the U.S. because the U.S.'s military has had talks with China's? Militaries talk to each other to avoid misunderstandings and unintended escalation. Sometimes it's even about coordinating things like disaster response.
    - ericmay 25d ago
      Well no because that wouldn’t make sense. I didn’t accuse Canada of going against Canada’s interests simply by virtue of having talks though I think ultimately such talks are likely to. Canada is not able to project military power and has no ability to fight a war against China so I’m skeptical that these conversations make a lot of sense, well, given the timing. And of course with many Canadiens seeming to think they are “going to turn to China” in light of American tariffs or something. But the headline and meeting with Chinese military leaders while your allies are conducting defensive operations looks kind of bad. At least in my option. > They probably weren't very productive, because Hegseth Hegseth is a moron who shouldn’t have been hired and should be fired immediately, but if conversations weren’t productive maybe that’s China’s fault instead.
      - watwut 25d ago
        Why would Canada need the ability to fight against China for security talks to make sense? Ukraine was having security talks all around middle east, even made agreements and they also dont have ability or wish to attack Saudi. > meeting with Chinese military leaders while your allies are conducting defensive operations Which Canadian ally is doimg defensive operations? I mean EU against USA did around Greenland, but who else? > egseth is a moron who shouldn’t have been hired and should be fired immediately, but if conversations weren’t productive maybe that’s China’s fault instead. Why would it be Chinas fault? By all we have seen America is impossible to make agreements against and Hegseth is incompetent. Why blaming China here?

beloch 25d ago

The trouble is that the U.S. is threatening annexation and waging trade war on the West while pulling its military assets (e.g. All carriers) out of Asia with no diplomatic successes to keep the area stable. There's a power vacuum around Taiwan now. Middle powers have to step in, and this is an example of that. This is not Canada siding with China. It's a middle power engaging with China to find common ground before China decides that power vacuum is too juicy to resist. Canada has a border on the Pacific too, after all.

jakeinspace 25d ago

China hasn't invaded another country this century.