>> The bra went in the bin. XD My friend got her skirt munched. While wearing it. I totally think it's like you say: the goats have never learned to be milked

>> The bra went in the bin. XD My friend got her skirt munched. While wearing it. I totally think it's like you say: the goats have never learned to be milked and now they'll never learned. The new generation might, but who's going to teach them? Not me because I'm only there half the year (when it's hot and I don't want to move). >> As an aside, you probably want to get yourself a copy of "Self-Sufficiency" by John Seymour, and have a read of that. Thanks. I'll have a look.