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> The soccer organization confirmed this week to The Register that it has moved its stadium’s server, storage, and networking infrastructure to HPE solutions de

by bob1029 1mo ago

> The soccer organization confirmed this week to The Register that it has moved its stadium’s server, storage, and networking infrastructure to HPE solutions delivered through HPE’s hybrid cloud management platform, GreenLake. This is just a much worse version of AWS. Obsession with maintaining some degree of physical control over infrastructure drives many organizations to absolute insanity. Skip the hybrid nonsense. Find a CTO with some balls.

surgical_fire 1mo ago
I would argue that absolute insanity is surrendering all control of infrastructure to cloud providers. Especially when you are using managed services that lock you in, making any plans of migrating way ridiculously painful. It takes a CTO with cojones to actually own your infrastructure.
deadbunny 1mo ago
Takes real balls to go with AWS huh?
- geodel 1mo ago
  I mean wasn't it just few months back when Socrates was asked to drink poison chalice when he was promoting multi-cloud strategy by using Kubernetes based deployment for his education platform.
WokeUp420 1mo ago
Nonsense. Renting servers is the easiest way to bankrupt your company. Look at all the capacity shortages going on right now. Price will continue to outpace bare metal and controls will get tighter. Not to mention there are many scenarios where cloud connectivity is not an option.
- bob1029 1mo ago
  > Renting servers is the easiest way to bankrupt your company. I can think of a lot of easier ways.
Symbiote 1mo ago
> Tottenham Hotspur Stadium has 20,000 network access points, 1,849 IPTV screens, and 519 CCTV screens. It hosts about 63,000 viewers A decent part of that is probably important to be working on the day of a football match. They already own a suitable building, probably with decent backup power, so running their own servers seems both more reliable and cheaper than renting.
- toast0 1mo ago
  > A decent part of that is probably important to be working on the day of a football match. Otoh, if they only need the servers to run while guests are attending matches (and other events), it looks like they do about one event a week from their calendar [1]. Why pay to have the server 24/7 if you only use it for maybe 6 hours a week. With that kind of utilization, cloud may well be cheaper. Reliability you can argue either way. Onsite has the benefit that there's no external network causing problems; however for a site like that, you're likely to have redundant high capacity internet providers so that's less of an issue. Certainly, when there are server issues, having them onsite provides more agency, but I don't think that means it's more reliable. [1] https://www.tottenhamhotspurstadium.com/events https://www.tottenhamhotspurstadium.com/events
mschuster91 1mo ago
> Obsession with maintaining some degree of physical control over infrastructure drives many organizations to absolute insanity. Well... thank the current US administration for that one. The move they did with that ICC judge, cutting him off from anything digital, was a wakeup call for us Europeans that we can take nothing for granted any more.
finnthehuman 1mo ago
Physical operations is the “you had one job” of running a stadium. Gillette even has their own wastewater plant. Some basic rack and stack for IT infra that they could offsite next to all the IT infra they can’t offsite should be child play to them.

by bob1029 1mo ago

surgical_fire 1mo ago

I would argue that absolute insanity is surrendering all control of infrastructure to cloud providers. Especially when you are using managed services that lock you in, making any plans of migrating way ridiculously painful. It takes a CTO with cojones to actually own your infrastructure.

deadbunny 1mo ago

Takes real balls to go with AWS huh?

geodel 1mo ago
I mean wasn't it just few months back when Socrates was asked to drink poison chalice when he was promoting multi-cloud strategy by using Kubernetes based deployment for his education platform.

WokeUp420 1mo ago

Nonsense. Renting servers is the easiest way to bankrupt your company. Look at all the capacity shortages going on right now. Price will continue to outpace bare metal and controls will get tighter. Not to mention there are many scenarios where cloud connectivity is not an option.

bob1029 1mo ago
> Renting servers is the easiest way to bankrupt your company. I can think of a lot of easier ways.

Symbiote 1mo ago

> Tottenham Hotspur Stadium has 20,000 network access points, 1,849 IPTV screens, and 519 CCTV screens. It hosts about 63,000 viewers A decent part of that is probably important to be working on the day of a football match. They already own a suitable building, probably with decent backup power, so running their own servers seems both more reliable and cheaper than renting.

toast0 1mo ago
> A decent part of that is probably important to be working on the day of a football match. Otoh, if they only need the servers to run while guests are attending matches (and other events), it looks like they do about one event a week from their calendar [1]. Why pay to have the server 24/7 if you only use it for maybe 6 hours a week. With that kind of utilization, cloud may well be cheaper. Reliability you can argue either way. Onsite has the benefit that there's no external network causing problems; however for a site like that, you're likely to have redundant high capacity internet providers so that's less of an issue. Certainly, when there are server issues, having them onsite provides more agency, but I don't think that means it's more reliable. [1] https://www.tottenhamhotspurstadium.com/events https://www.tottenhamhotspurstadium.com/events

mschuster91 1mo ago

> Obsession with maintaining some degree of physical control over infrastructure drives many organizations to absolute insanity. Well... thank the current US administration for that one. The move they did with that ICC judge, cutting him off from anything digital, was a wakeup call for us Europeans that we can take nothing for granted any more.

finnthehuman 1mo ago

Physical operations is the “you had one job” of running a stadium. Gillette even has their own wastewater plant. Some basic rack and stack for IT infra that they could offsite next to all the IT infra they can’t offsite should be child play to them.