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I couldn't imagine engaging with any form of media where the possibility of being exposed to an ad exists. I haven't seen an ad in over 20 years now and I can't

by OroPla 1mo ago

I couldn't imagine engaging with any form of media where the possibility of being exposed to an ad exists. I haven't seen an ad in over 20 years now and I can't go back. Only watch Blu-rays and when I do Youtube, I do it through yt-dlp. If there are ads, I'm out. I just can't physically handle this assault on my mind. It's too much.

david-gpu 1mo ago
I am on the same boat. Product placements on movies and TV series are bad enough.
BLKNSLVR 1mo ago
So, like, you just have to imagine all the things that could make you unhappy and jealous that you don't have?!?
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someguynamedq 1mo ago
So you don't use any form of social media whatsoever? Ad blocks don't block sponsored content
- Mateon1 1mo ago
  Sponsorblock does exactly that (and a bit more). I can't watch youtube without it nowadays. Subscription feed -> yt-dlp -> mpv with sponorblock. If this ever stops working I'm not suffering through ads, I'm ignoring youtube as a platform.
  - shellwizard 1mo ago
    You can use yt-dlp with sponsorblock timings directly [0] to get rid of all the sponsorship segments from the final video, no need to use it later via mpv. [0] https://yt-dlp.net/guides/sponsorblock https://yt-dlp.net/guides/sponsorblock
    - parlortricks 1mo ago
      that is awesome
mikeweiss 1mo ago
What about product placements in movies?
- OroPla 1mo ago
  I don't mind as long as it doesn't take me out of the story. It probably helps that I don't recognize most products being placed, as I do not know ads. Thinking about it... product placements do introduce an interesting dynamic. TV shows I watched in the past often went out of their way to change brand names, for example Somy instead of Sony, WacDonalds instead of MacDonalds etc. This is done to avoid copyright infringement, I think. But on the other side brands pay to be inserted.
driverdan 1mo ago
The SponsorBlock extension does a good job of skipping inline YT ads when watching on the site.
- mopsi 1mo ago
  And not only that, but also has settings (configurable per channel) to skip intros/outros, tangents, etc. It's the superior Youtube experience that, funnily enough, is not available on paid platforms like Apple TV.
  - Systemmanic 1mo ago
    This is how I use SponserBlock with YouTube on my Apple TV: https://github.com/dmunozv04/iSponsorBlockTV https://github.com/dmunozv04/iSponsorBlockTV >iSponsorBlockTV is a self-hosted application that connects to your YouTube TV app and automatically skips segments in YouTube videos using the SponsorBlock API.
- account42 1mo ago
  I prefer to take it as the video creator confessing that their voice is for sale and not to be trusted and then act accordingly by closing the video and making a mental not never to watch anything from that person again.
nickthegreek 1mo ago
my blu-ray’s have ads before the movie starts.
- OroPla 1mo ago
  My Blu-ray rips do not. Yes, I also couldn't watch a Blu-ray in a normal player. Too many ads.
  - account42 1mo ago
    Not to mention user-hostile features like region restrictions or DRM requirements for your TV and display connection that are incompatible with free computing.
geye1234 1mo ago
It's astonishing that people accept advertising as normal and acceptable. It's psychological abuse. Obviously this doesn't apply to classified ads or their electronic equivalents. But what we normally mean by advertising, where people are paid vast sums of money to think very, very hard about how to manipulate you to hand over money for shit you don't need, is vomit-inducing. Billboards are even worse because they deface and degrade the public landscape, and ugly landscapes can contribute to depression, anxiety, irrational anger, and other problems. They are as bad as littering. What has made people think this is ok?
- parlortricks 1mo ago
  I think it is the boiling frog experience. It has just slowly happened over time, and sometimes they push too hard and get blow back. So you step it down a notch but keep pushing forward until one day you look back and can't remember a day where there were no ads. I have ad free household. We treat ads like a poison, like there's a fire. Over the top reaction to shut them down if they creep in. It has taught my own child to avoid ads like the plague (unlike their peers). I have no idea how people use the Internet with all the ads, no blockers. It is just bonkers, and even at work it is an uphill battle to convince people ad-blockers should be enforced just to protect the business from malicious ads, let alone their own brains. I want to lobby to have all adverts removed from public transport, but I am unsure how to do that in Australia, but I will work it out.
  - geye1234 1mo ago
    Yeah I've taught my kids to treat ads the same way, and we make a joke about quickly turning the screen off when ads come on. Of course we have UBO and Unhook installed, plus DNS blocking. I tell them what I put in my post above, that advertising is a form of deceit, manipulation to get you to act against your own interest. Naturally we don't have a TV, because why would anyone want to do that? I don't know what I'm going to teach them about politics when the time comes, since (what most people mean by) politics is essentially a particularly malevolent and dangerous species of advertising, but at the same time I don't want to make them too cynical. I don't know if the boiling frog thesis explains it, since it's gone from near-zero to 100 in non-western countries over the past couple of decades, unlike the west where it's built up slowly over the past century and a half.

by OroPla 1mo ago

david-gpu 1mo ago

I am on the same boat. Product placements on movies and TV series are bad enough.

BLKNSLVR 1mo ago

So, like, you just have to imagine all the things that could make you unhappy and jealous that you don't have?!?

deleted 1mo ago

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someguynamedq 1mo ago

So you don't use any form of social media whatsoever? Ad blocks don't block sponsored content

Mateon1 1mo ago
Sponsorblock does exactly that (and a bit more). I can't watch youtube without it nowadays. Subscription feed -> yt-dlp -> mpv with sponorblock. If this ever stops working I'm not suffering through ads, I'm ignoring youtube as a platform.
- shellwizard 1mo ago
  You can use yt-dlp with sponsorblock timings directly [0] to get rid of all the sponsorship segments from the final video, no need to use it later via mpv. [0] https://yt-dlp.net/guides/sponsorblock https://yt-dlp.net/guides/sponsorblock
  - parlortricks 1mo ago
    that is awesome

mikeweiss 1mo ago

What about product placements in movies?

OroPla 1mo ago
I don't mind as long as it doesn't take me out of the story. It probably helps that I don't recognize most products being placed, as I do not know ads. Thinking about it... product placements do introduce an interesting dynamic. TV shows I watched in the past often went out of their way to change brand names, for example Somy instead of Sony, WacDonalds instead of MacDonalds etc. This is done to avoid copyright infringement, I think. But on the other side brands pay to be inserted.

driverdan 1mo ago

The SponsorBlock extension does a good job of skipping inline YT ads when watching on the site.

mopsi 1mo ago
And not only that, but also has settings (configurable per channel) to skip intros/outros, tangents, etc. It's the superior Youtube experience that, funnily enough, is not available on paid platforms like Apple TV.
- Systemmanic 1mo ago
  This is how I use SponserBlock with YouTube on my Apple TV: https://github.com/dmunozv04/iSponsorBlockTV https://github.com/dmunozv04/iSponsorBlockTV >iSponsorBlockTV is a self-hosted application that connects to your YouTube TV app and automatically skips segments in YouTube videos using the SponsorBlock API.
account42 1mo ago
I prefer to take it as the video creator confessing that their voice is for sale and not to be trusted and then act accordingly by closing the video and making a mental not never to watch anything from that person again.

nickthegreek 1mo ago

my blu-ray’s have ads before the movie starts.

OroPla 1mo ago
My Blu-ray rips do not. Yes, I also couldn't watch a Blu-ray in a normal player. Too many ads.
- account42 1mo ago
  Not to mention user-hostile features like region restrictions or DRM requirements for your TV and display connection that are incompatible with free computing.

geye1234 1mo ago

It's astonishing that people accept advertising as normal and acceptable. It's psychological abuse. Obviously this doesn't apply to classified ads or their electronic equivalents. But what we normally mean by advertising, where people are paid vast sums of money to think very, very hard about how to manipulate you to hand over money for shit you don't need, is vomit-inducing. Billboards are even worse because they deface and degrade the public landscape, and ugly landscapes can contribute to depression, anxiety, irrational anger, and other problems. They are as bad as littering. What has made people think this is ok?

parlortricks 1mo ago
I think it is the boiling frog experience. It has just slowly happened over time, and sometimes they push too hard and get blow back. So you step it down a notch but keep pushing forward until one day you look back and can't remember a day where there were no ads. I have ad free household. We treat ads like a poison, like there's a fire. Over the top reaction to shut them down if they creep in. It has taught my own child to avoid ads like the plague (unlike their peers). I have no idea how people use the Internet with all the ads, no blockers. It is just bonkers, and even at work it is an uphill battle to convince people ad-blockers should be enforced just to protect the business from malicious ads, let alone their own brains. I want to lobby to have all adverts removed from public transport, but I am unsure how to do that in Australia, but I will work it out.
- geye1234 1mo ago
  Yeah I've taught my kids to treat ads the same way, and we make a joke about quickly turning the screen off when ads come on. Of course we have UBO and Unhook installed, plus DNS blocking. I tell them what I put in my post above, that advertising is a form of deceit, manipulation to get you to act against your own interest. Naturally we don't have a TV, because why would anyone want to do that? I don't know what I'm going to teach them about politics when the time comes, since (what most people mean by) politics is essentially a particularly malevolent and dangerous species of advertising, but at the same time I don't want to make them too cynical. I don't know if the boiling frog thesis explains it, since it's gone from near-zero to 100 in non-western countries over the past couple of decades, unlike the west where it's built up slowly over the past century and a half.