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I think what you're missing is that for many Western European countries, like Germany, suddenly gaining a direct border with Russia is a genuine concern. It's n

I think what you're missing is that for many Western European countries, like Germany, suddenly gaining a direct border with Russia is a genuine concern. It's not just rhetoric; it's the real world. It's easy for Americans, who are essentially uninvadable, to discount this as just people saying stuff, but in Europe, we actually have to live with Russia's direct military threat.

einpoklum 28d ago
> gaining a direct border with Russia If you mean EU borders - it's had direct border with Russia since 1995. If you mean in the sense of placing NATO troups on border with Russia, that is indeed recent, and definitely a concern, but - those west-European countries have gone along with expanding NATO eastwards. If you mean the supposed fear of Russia conquering Poland - then that is not really serious. > we actually have to live with Russia's direct military threat. So far in this war, it is German and other European & NATO member state weapons being intentionally fired into Russia, not the other way around. Of course, if you look further back, Russia has invaded westwards multiple times over the centuries, and European powers have indaded Russia multiple times: Sweden, France, Germany. But mutual perception as threats is something almost any pair of European states can be said to have in their past. And the distances are even closer than Russia and Germany.
Lumich 28d ago
It would be great to have a direct border with Russia, and finally get rid of US troops in Europe. Would solve lots of issues and drastically increase prosperity and well-being. There's never been a Russian threat in the first place. The sustained militarization of post-WW2 Europe, i.e. NATO, the arms race and the Cold War and its world-wide proxy wars, is the result of Britain and the US pursueing their strategy of tension. At every single step it was the US who escalated, divided and militarized Europe. This is a patently obvious fact of history. And it includes the current war using the Ukraine as ram against Russia.
- mcv 28d ago
  > There's never been a Russian threat in the first place. Have you really had your head in the sand, or are you just desperately trying to sell a transparent lie here? The Putin is not exactly careful about his threats.
  - AlexeyBelov 27d ago
    You're replying to a 25-day-old account that posts pro-Russian comments. Don't feed the trolls please.

einpoklum 28d ago

> gaining a direct border with Russia If you mean EU borders - it's had direct border with Russia since 1995. If you mean in the sense of placing NATO troups on border with Russia, that is indeed recent, and definitely a concern, but - those west-European countries have gone along with expanding NATO eastwards. If you mean the supposed fear of Russia conquering Poland - then that is not really serious. > we actually have to live with Russia's direct military threat. So far in this war, it is German and other European & NATO member state weapons being intentionally fired into Russia, not the other way around. Of course, if you look further back, Russia has invaded westwards multiple times over the centuries, and European powers have indaded Russia multiple times: Sweden, France, Germany. But mutual perception as threats is something almost any pair of European states can be said to have in their past. And the distances are even closer than Russia and Germany.

Lumich 28d ago

It would be great to have a direct border with Russia, and finally get rid of US troops in Europe. Would solve lots of issues and drastically increase prosperity and well-being. There's never been a Russian threat in the first place. The sustained militarization of post-WW2 Europe, i.e. NATO, the arms race and the Cold War and its world-wide proxy wars, is the result of Britain and the US pursueing their strategy of tension. At every single step it was the US who escalated, divided and militarized Europe. This is a patently obvious fact of history. And it includes the current war using the Ukraine as ram against Russia.

mcv 28d ago
> There's never been a Russian threat in the first place. Have you really had your head in the sand, or are you just desperately trying to sell a transparent lie here? The Putin is not exactly careful about his threats.
- AlexeyBelov 27d ago
  You're replying to a 25-day-old account that posts pro-Russian comments. Don't feed the trolls please.