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The 10% excel sheets are exactly the problem. You can replace 90% or even 99% with either some online simpler office suite or none at all. But it will turn out

The 10% excel sheets are exactly the problem. You can replace 90% or even 99% with either some online simpler office suite or none at all. But it will turn out there are business critical things running in 2003 format excel sheets with macros and if anything stops working then the organization stops working. The person who made these sheets and macros has retired 20 years ago and "updating it" would require making a dozen little applications to replace them which would be a huge task. The simple/cheap answer I think is to just keep the power users and legacy systems on the tools they need/want. Because that's where the pain point is that cause these projects to fail. If you aim for 100% you'll end up with 0% eventually. If you aim for 90%, you can do it. But Microsoft know this, and would make sure that a 90% migration saves you much less than a 100% migration. Which is why this is so rare still. (I think the number is probably 99% not 90%, but the point is the same)

robocat 19d ago
How many people in most government positions are using Excel? SaaS and mobile has taken over many apps. We sell SaaS to business and govt clients where most end users are either on a browser or a mobile app. There is a Windows application (path dependent history) but it is almost vestigial for configuration/management.
- alkonaut 15d ago
  of people with a laptop? Maybe half (Just a guess). But most of those are not using it for anything complex. But it doesn't matter, it's that 1% of excel users and their sheet that is the problem. You'll find where it is WHEN you try to phase out excel. Not before. The report will be "I can no longer run our weekly report thing because google sheets/liberoffice doesn't run the macro and now we can't update the schedule for the drivers and they're angry, please advise". The solution, invariably, is not to throw a contractor at the problem and write a web service for it. It's to just let that sheet keep working another decade and pay the excel license. It's much much cheaper. But it also means that the long tail of Excel stays.

robocat 19d ago

How many people in most government positions are using Excel? SaaS and mobile has taken over many apps. We sell SaaS to business and govt clients where most end users are either on a browser or a mobile app. There is a Windows application (path dependent history) but it is almost vestigial for configuration/management.

alkonaut 15d ago
of people with a laptop? Maybe half (Just a guess). But most of those are not using it for anything complex. But it doesn't matter, it's that 1% of excel users and their sheet that is the problem. You'll find where it is WHEN you try to phase out excel. Not before. The report will be "I can no longer run our weekly report thing because google sheets/liberoffice doesn't run the macro and now we can't update the schedule for the drivers and they're angry, please advise". The solution, invariably, is not to throw a contractor at the problem and write a web service for it. It's to just let that sheet keep working another decade and pay the excel license. It's much much cheaper. But it also means that the long tail of Excel stays.