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embedding-shape 25d ago
Great, blog spam comments on HN now? Where is the "Cry that no independent regulator audited their systems and that the transactions were not reversible" coming from? Neither the Twitter thread nor the HN comments even mention anything about this, just the typical argument against yourself?
- harrouet 25d ago
  I am just saying that this would not happened with a normal bank. Pure DeFi structural deficiency. But I see how polarized you are about the topic.
  - embedding-shape 25d ago
    > I am just saying that this would not happened with a normal bank Ok, but who were you quoting before? I too see how polarized your view seems to be, given you started this conversation with arguing against yourself for some reason.
    - harrouet 25d ago
      > you started this conversation with arguing against yourself How so ? Meanwhile, what you qualified as blog spam is actually proving to be written by a human spending too much time answering your rant.
      - embedding-shape 25d ago
        > How so ? Who said any of the parts you quoted in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49594757 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49594757? It looks like you made up all of those lines.
        harrouet 25d ago
        That the concept of comments: those lines come from me. No AI (can you believe?)
        embedding-shape 25d ago
        Hence the whole "arguing with yourself" part... Generally, we use quotes here for actual quotes, not quoting stuff we've read in other newspapers or on reddit or whatever, but real verbatim quotes. I think it used to be a proper guidelines back in the day, or at least people got really up in their arms if you used quote syntax for things that weren't actually verbatim quotes. But besides that, what's the point? Why share other's viewpoints you don't even agree with, so you can argue against them yourself? Why not wait until someone who actually has those viewpoints, share them? Or even better, why not just say nothing at all?
        toasty228 25d ago
        Did you create an account this morning? This trend is a good ten year old lmao
  - tancop 24d ago
    You can have smart wallets with reversible transactions. Even chargeback systems where both sides agree on a neutral judge to decide who's right. It takes time to set it up in a way that's secure, low cost and has good UX, but it's definitely possible. Of course you need to use a well designed network like Ethereum or Solana for that, not a random Bitcoin sidechain controlled by a committee of BTC miners and shady VCs. This is a problem with Liquid not DeFi.
    - harrouet 23d ago
      Interesting... But do both parties need to agree to the reversal? Then that's really trivial... and not prone to work against fraudsters. I suspect that a legally-mandated transaction reversal supposes that an authority has got power over the system -- which is against DeFi philosophy.
shuwix 25d ago
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Great, blog spam comments on HN now? Where is the "Cry that no independent regulator audited their systems and that the transactions were not reversible" coming from? Neither the Twitter thread nor the HN comments even mention anything about this, just the typical argument against yourself?

harrouet 25d ago
I am just saying that this would not happened with a normal bank. Pure DeFi structural deficiency. But I see how polarized you are about the topic.
- embedding-shape 25d ago
  > I am just saying that this would not happened with a normal bank Ok, but who were you quoting before? I too see how polarized your view seems to be, given you started this conversation with arguing against yourself for some reason.
  - harrouet 25d ago
    > you started this conversation with arguing against yourself How so ? Meanwhile, what you qualified as blog spam is actually proving to be written by a human spending too much time answering your rant.
    - embedding-shape 25d ago
      > How so ? Who said any of the parts you quoted in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49594757 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49594757? It looks like you made up all of those lines.
      - harrouet 25d ago
        That the concept of comments: those lines come from me. No AI (can you believe?)
        embedding-shape 25d ago
        Hence the whole "arguing with yourself" part... Generally, we use quotes here for actual quotes, not quoting stuff we've read in other newspapers or on reddit or whatever, but real verbatim quotes. I think it used to be a proper guidelines back in the day, or at least people got really up in their arms if you used quote syntax for things that weren't actually verbatim quotes. But besides that, what's the point? Why share other's viewpoints you don't even agree with, so you can argue against them yourself? Why not wait until someone who actually has those viewpoints, share them? Or even better, why not just say nothing at all?
        toasty228 25d ago
        Did you create an account this morning? This trend is a good ten year old lmao
- tancop 24d ago
  You can have smart wallets with reversible transactions. Even chargeback systems where both sides agree on a neutral judge to decide who's right. It takes time to set it up in a way that's secure, low cost and has good UX, but it's definitely possible. Of course you need to use a well designed network like Ethereum or Solana for that, not a random Bitcoin sidechain controlled by a committee of BTC miners and shady VCs. This is a problem with Liquid not DeFi.
  - harrouet 23d ago
    Interesting... But do both parties need to agree to the reversal? Then that's really trivial... and not prone to work against fraudsters. I suspect that a legally-mandated transaction reversal supposes that an authority has got power over the system -- which is against DeFi philosophy.

shuwix 25d ago

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