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> There are even countries where Opera is the most popular browser. I'm having a hard time believing this. Any stats? > For example I can run Safari 4 beta on

by anatoli 18y ago

> There are even countries where Opera is the most popular browser. I'm having a hard time believing this. Any stats? > For example I can run Safari 4 beta on a very slow machine and technically it won;t pass the test. Hixie, who's pretty much the guy behind the whole test-suite and the authority on Acid 3, said that the reference machine is MacBook Pro. So, no, you couldn't run it on a slow machine and say it doesn't pass, because that's not the machine it has to pass on. :)

andrewl-hn 18y ago
> I'm having a hard time believing this. Any stats? Belarus (or Byelorussia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus Stats: http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=by;period=month http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=by;pe... Ukraine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine Stats: http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=ukr;period=month http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=ukr;p... Opera is more popular than Firefox in Russia http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=ru;period=month http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=ru;pe... It's interesting that Russian Google users prefer Firefox, though http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=Google;period=month http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=Googl... As a bottom line: worldwide market share doesn't mean anything. Even if you don't support some browser with a 0.1% share then you stop supporting millions of people and leave them upset. But you shouldn't think about smaller browsers. Pick a good tools like jQuery (which replaced all browser sniffing code with feature detection) and provide a fallback (like GMail basic or Y!Mail Classic) and you should be fine :) And don't leave IE 8 f*cked up: never use 'if IE' conditional comments. Check for a specific versions instead like 'if lte IE 7'. Give them a chance. > the reference machine is MacBook Pro Didn't know that, sorry. As I said I seems just too complicated to me :)

by anatoli 18y ago

andrewl-hn 18y ago

> I'm having a hard time believing this. Any stats? Belarus (or Byelorussia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus Stats: http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=by;period=month http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=by;pe... Ukraine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine Stats: http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=ukr;period=month http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=ukr;p... Opera is more popular than Firefox in Russia http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=ru;period=month http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=ru;pe... It's interesting that Russian Google users prefer Firefox, though http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=Google;period=month http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?slice=Googl... As a bottom line: worldwide market share doesn't mean anything. Even if you don't support some browser with a 0.1% share then you stop supporting millions of people and leave them upset. But you shouldn't think about smaller browsers. Pick a good tools like jQuery (which replaced all browser sniffing code with feature detection) and provide a fallback (like GMail basic or Y!Mail Classic) and you should be fine :) And don't leave IE 8 f*cked up: never use 'if IE' conditional comments. Check for a specific versions instead like 'if lte IE 7'. Give them a chance. > the reference machine is MacBook Pro Didn't know that, sorry. As I said I seems just too complicated to me :)