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You didn't describe any relationships. I don't think leftists are intending harm on the USA

by bakies 19d ago

stale2002 18d ago
Far leftists are quite open about how they think the USA is the evil empire and that Russian, China, Iran, ect are the "multipolar" world that they support. You must be thinking of progressives who merely want free healthcare. Sure, an average bernie fan who wants some more government programs doesn't want the USA to fail. Instead, I am talking about the campists, the far lefties, or the "tankies" that they are sometimes called.
- bakies 18d ago
  I don't think cooling off the empirical war machine is "harming the USA"
  - stale2002 18d ago
    Supporting actual attacks on shipping lanes, or supporting the russian war, or attacks done by designated terrorist organizations is what I am referring to that some of the hard leftists support. Yes, those things harm the USA, to explicitly be doing things like supporting the russian war on our allies.
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    - bakies 17d ago
      > Their supporters in the west form alliances with the left. so you don't agree with this? you're saying the far-right and far-left terrorist orgs will support each other?
      - stale2002 16d ago
        > you're saying the far-right and far-left terrorist orgs will support each other? I am saying that far left people put out support for what are arguably far right, religious extremist groups yes. The labels of left and right get blurred, also. The people are who are right and support russia's invasion of ukraine, for example, often use very similar rhetoric to what supposedly far left people also use. Its very similar talking points. Very similar arguments. The only main difference is that the far right will say they think jews control the world, whereas the far left will make the same exact argument about "zionists" instead. But often time the exact argument, word for work will be the same, with only a single word replaced. Even stuff like "ZOG", which used to be vocabulary only used by neonazis is now being used by all sorts of people.

You didn't describe any relationships. I don't think leftists are intending harm on the USA

by bakies 19d ago

You didn't describe any relationships. I don't think leftists are intending harm on the USA

stale2002 18d ago

Far leftists are quite open about how they think the USA is the evil empire and that Russian, China, Iran, ect are the "multipolar" world that they support. You must be thinking of progressives who merely want free healthcare. Sure, an average bernie fan who wants some more government programs doesn't want the USA to fail. Instead, I am talking about the campists, the far lefties, or the "tankies" that they are sometimes called.

bakies 18d ago
I don't think cooling off the empirical war machine is "harming the USA"
- stale2002 18d ago
  Supporting actual attacks on shipping lanes, or supporting the russian war, or attacks done by designated terrorist organizations is what I am referring to that some of the hard leftists support. Yes, those things harm the USA, to explicitly be doing things like supporting the russian war on our allies.
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  - bakies 17d ago
    > Their supporters in the west form alliances with the left. so you don't agree with this? you're saying the far-right and far-left terrorist orgs will support each other?
    - stale2002 16d ago
      > you're saying the far-right and far-left terrorist orgs will support each other? I am saying that far left people put out support for what are arguably far right, religious extremist groups yes. The labels of left and right get blurred, also. The people are who are right and support russia's invasion of ukraine, for example, often use very similar rhetoric to what supposedly far left people also use. Its very similar talking points. Very similar arguments. The only main difference is that the far right will say they think jews control the world, whereas the far left will make the same exact argument about "zionists" instead. But often time the exact argument, word for work will be the same, with only a single word replaced. Even stuff like "ZOG", which used to be vocabulary only used by neonazis is now being used by all sorts of people.