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I use Gboard with the network permission disabled. It works well but I hope they have a better stock keyboard, I haven't found any others that don't annoy me in

I use Gboard with the network permission disabled. It works well but I hope they have a better stock keyboard, I haven't found any others that don't annoy me in one way or another.

MrDrMcCoy 28d ago
The latest FUTO works just as well as Gboard for me. Their somewhat recent update to their swiping library really changed the game, and their voice recognition is also pretty decent.
- Cider9986 27d ago
  Same. Used to use GBoard, not FUTO is as good so no reason to.
  - Cider9986 27d ago
    not->now
- fph 27d ago
  It seems like work on voice recognition has halted entirely though. On https://keyboard.futo.tech/voice-input-models https://keyboard.futo.tech/voice-input-models , community models and other models have been "coming soon" forever, and in the end the only model they offer is whisper-small, a very basic model from 2022. Which in AI is like prehistory.
hellcow 27d ago
Google can shuttle network requests to any of their other apps (or play services, if that's running) via IPC, even with the network permission disabled in Gboard. So if you're using Graphene for privacy from Google specifically, it's not safe to install things like Gboard even with the network permission disabled. Even if they don't use IPC in this way today, there's no telling what the Google-of-tomorrow will do.
- b112 27d ago
  there's no telling what the Google-of-tomorrow will do. This is true and even vastly understated. Google is like the Walter White of companies. Starts out innocent, turned into a monster, everyone around him astonished at the dark, depraved change. So if one thinks "nah, Google wouldn't do that", I have a bridge to sell you...
dns_snek 27d ago
fyi disabling network permission doesn't protect against deliberate and coordinated data exfiltration. Apps can still communicate with other apps, for example with Google Play Services or any other app.
nicman23 27d ago
futo is running whisper to transcript and it is local only

I use Gboard with the network permission disabled. It works well but I hope they have a better stock keyboard, I haven't found any others that don't annoy me in one way or another.

MrDrMcCoy 28d ago

The latest FUTO works just as well as Gboard for me. Their somewhat recent update to their swiping library really changed the game, and their voice recognition is also pretty decent.

Cider9986 27d ago
Same. Used to use GBoard, not FUTO is as good so no reason to.
- Cider9986 27d ago
  not->now
fph 27d ago
It seems like work on voice recognition has halted entirely though. On https://keyboard.futo.tech/voice-input-models https://keyboard.futo.tech/voice-input-models , community models and other models have been "coming soon" forever, and in the end the only model they offer is whisper-small, a very basic model from 2022. Which in AI is like prehistory.

hellcow 27d ago

Google can shuttle network requests to any of their other apps (or play services, if that's running) via IPC, even with the network permission disabled in Gboard. So if you're using Graphene for privacy from Google specifically, it's not safe to install things like Gboard even with the network permission disabled. Even if they don't use IPC in this way today, there's no telling what the Google-of-tomorrow will do.

b112 27d ago
there's no telling what the Google-of-tomorrow will do. This is true and even vastly understated. Google is like the Walter White of companies. Starts out innocent, turned into a monster, everyone around him astonished at the dark, depraved change. So if one thinks "nah, Google wouldn't do that", I have a bridge to sell you...

dns_snek 27d ago

fyi disabling network permission doesn't protect against deliberate and coordinated data exfiltration. Apps can still communicate with other apps, for example with Google Play Services or any other app.

nicman23 27d ago

futo is running whisper to transcript and it is local only