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Look, if you're going out of your way to break expected behaviour on websites you shouldn't be surprised when people code to the most common denominator and the

by xena 26d ago

Look, if you're going out of your way to break expected behaviour on websites you shouldn't be surprised when people code to the most common denominator and then you have weird subtle breakage as a result.

anuthis 26d ago
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kstrauser 26d ago
Gotta agree. Turning tracking cookies off? Sure! Turning session cookies off and then complaining that the server doesn’t remember you? Uhhh… And while I’m sympathetic to the idea of not wanting to run JS, to a first approximation modern browsers are JS engines that have graphical displays. How things should be vs how they are is a classic is/ought problem. The world took a vote on what a browser’s meant for and we lost. Fighting it today is rough; tomorrow, futile.
- gruez 26d ago
  >Gotta agree. Turning tracking cookies off? Sure! Turning session cookies off and then complaining that the server doesn’t remember you? Uhhh… No, because there are technologies that don't have this issue, eg. privacy pass.
- perching_aix 26d ago
  There's no mechanistic difference between the two types of cookies, let's not pretend this is an actual config choice that people are making. Whenever I hit Anubis, I simply go "keep your secrets then" and take my leave. The vast majority of the sites posted to HN (that catch my fancy) work fine or fine enough, and are better for it. If I really, really desperately want to check something out, I can always just turn stuff back on. Turns out, I rarely do. Shoutout to the particularly dogshit few that don't just require cookies and JS, but even third party JS. For reading a blogpost or a message thread!
  - bmacho 26d ago
    > There's no mechanistic difference between the two types of cookies, let's not pretend this is an actual config choice that people are making. They probably meant 3rd party cookies. It's common to block those. 1st party cookies not so much.
  - nosioptar 25d ago
    The Anubis anime girl is an instant tab close for me, especially while in public. I dont like having to explain to people that I'm not one of those creepy anime guys.
    - guydoom 25d ago
      It isn't even anime style, it gives me more western cartoonish vibes.
      - bmacho 25d ago
        From someone who doesn't want to associate with it, I think 'anime girl' is fair. Even if people who consume it might (and do) categorize it otherwise.
    - kstrauser 25d ago
      That’s the most insecure thing I’ve heard in a while. What other things randomly flashing across your screen disturb you? Do you imagine your coworkers keeping count of which ads are displayed in your browsers? Do you imagine that they don’t also see the Anubis loading screens?
    - notafox 24d ago
      uBlock Origin filter to block the anime girl from loading: ! Title: Hide Anubis Image */.within.website/x/cmd/anubis/static/img/*.webp$image (c) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46310941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46310941
gkbrk 26d ago
Clearing cookies when all you want to do is read static content is not "breaking expected behaviour on websites".

by xena 26d ago

anuthis 26d ago

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kstrauser 26d ago

Gotta agree. Turning tracking cookies off? Sure! Turning session cookies off and then complaining that the server doesn’t remember you? Uhhh… And while I’m sympathetic to the idea of not wanting to run JS, to a first approximation modern browsers are JS engines that have graphical displays. How things should be vs how they are is a classic is/ought problem. The world took a vote on what a browser’s meant for and we lost. Fighting it today is rough; tomorrow, futile.

gruez 26d ago
>Gotta agree. Turning tracking cookies off? Sure! Turning session cookies off and then complaining that the server doesn’t remember you? Uhhh… No, because there are technologies that don't have this issue, eg. privacy pass.
perching_aix 26d ago
There's no mechanistic difference between the two types of cookies, let's not pretend this is an actual config choice that people are making. Whenever I hit Anubis, I simply go "keep your secrets then" and take my leave. The vast majority of the sites posted to HN (that catch my fancy) work fine or fine enough, and are better for it. If I really, really desperately want to check something out, I can always just turn stuff back on. Turns out, I rarely do. Shoutout to the particularly dogshit few that don't just require cookies and JS, but even third party JS. For reading a blogpost or a message thread!
- bmacho 26d ago
  > There's no mechanistic difference between the two types of cookies, let's not pretend this is an actual config choice that people are making. They probably meant 3rd party cookies. It's common to block those. 1st party cookies not so much.
- nosioptar 25d ago
  The Anubis anime girl is an instant tab close for me, especially while in public. I dont like having to explain to people that I'm not one of those creepy anime guys.
  - guydoom 25d ago
    It isn't even anime style, it gives me more western cartoonish vibes.
    - bmacho 25d ago
      From someone who doesn't want to associate with it, I think 'anime girl' is fair. Even if people who consume it might (and do) categorize it otherwise.
  - kstrauser 25d ago
    That’s the most insecure thing I’ve heard in a while. What other things randomly flashing across your screen disturb you? Do you imagine your coworkers keeping count of which ads are displayed in your browsers? Do you imagine that they don’t also see the Anubis loading screens?
  - notafox 24d ago
    uBlock Origin filter to block the anime girl from loading: ! Title: Hide Anubis Image */.within.website/x/cmd/anubis/static/img/*.webp$image (c) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46310941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46310941

gkbrk 26d ago

Clearing cookies when all you want to do is read static content is not "breaking expected behaviour on websites".