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> * For a section of population who were in a certain age-range when the pandemic hit and that derailed their certain kinds of plans/hopes/dreams in personal li

by ekidd 27d ago

> * For a section of population who were in a certain age-range when the pandemic hit and that derailed their certain kinds of plans/hopes/dreams in personal life* ... > So I feel a strange kind of relief about this possibility of doom. So let me make sure I understand what you're saying. The pandemic disrupted your life plans for a few years and threw you off the track you planned? (Which does suck.) And now the possibility of actual human extinction makes you feel a strange relief? Am I understanding this correctly? If so, this is a remarkable level of something. Depression? Nihilism? Jealousy? Something else? Imagining total human extinction and feeling relief is not a healthy state of mind. And, yeah, you seem to know this. But I kind of wish we could reach some sort of broad public agreement that human extinction would be bad. And if it ever looks like it might happen, we should fight for human survival.

cosmic_cheese 27d ago
Something something Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. While I don't necessarily endorse the view, it's understandable that one might find it difficult to care much about the bigger picture when it feels like their own life is destined for a doom-spiral.
apsurd 27d ago
There's nuance though. Poetry even. > we should fight for human survival All problems arise from this statement. It's baked in us and it's why we do in fact survive. But it isn't so neatly righteous. When we struggle to agree on what defines a human, who ought to have rights, and basic equality, it's easy to see how much harm "we should fight for survival" does.
- ekidd 27d ago
  > > we should fight for human survival > All problems arise from this statement. Let me go on the record, then: Given a choice between every living human being becoming absolutely, for-real dead and the human species surviving, then I come down on the side of human survival. There are too many humans that I love personally, and too many innocent people just going about their lives that I would like to protect. Given a choice between the mass death of billions, and their survival, I choose survival. Human rights are essential. But human rights are difficult to achieve if everyone is dead.
  - lukewarm707 27d ago
    extinction is natural. we all go extinct.
    - hnsr 26d ago
      Yeah but like, maybe we can postpone it a little, by fighting :)

by ekidd 27d ago

cosmic_cheese 27d ago

Something something Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. While I don't necessarily endorse the view, it's understandable that one might find it difficult to care much about the bigger picture when it feels like their own life is destined for a doom-spiral.

apsurd 27d ago

There's nuance though. Poetry even. > we should fight for human survival All problems arise from this statement. It's baked in us and it's why we do in fact survive. But it isn't so neatly righteous. When we struggle to agree on what defines a human, who ought to have rights, and basic equality, it's easy to see how much harm "we should fight for survival" does.

ekidd 27d ago
> > we should fight for human survival > All problems arise from this statement. Let me go on the record, then: Given a choice between every living human being becoming absolutely, for-real dead and the human species surviving, then I come down on the side of human survival. There are too many humans that I love personally, and too many innocent people just going about their lives that I would like to protect. Given a choice between the mass death of billions, and their survival, I choose survival. Human rights are essential. But human rights are difficult to achieve if everyone is dead.
- lukewarm707 27d ago
  extinction is natural. we all go extinct.
  - hnsr 26d ago
    Yeah but like, maybe we can postpone it a little, by fighting :)