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> HN is extremely left-leaning What kind of mickey mouse political left are you using for reference here? The Dems? HN is extremely american-leaning, whose ce

by sph 1mo ago

> HN is extremely left-leaning What kind of mickey mouse political left are you using for reference here? The Dems? HN is extremely american-leaning, whose centre is firmly to the right compared to the rest of the world.

dgellow 1mo ago
> whose centre is firmly to the right compared to the rest of the world. Not really, no. Most of the world is under authoritarian regimes that would be seen as more right leaning. Most democracies are also right leaning. What characterizes the US is being extremely capitalistic and pro-corporations
aliasxneo 1mo ago
> HN is extremely american-leaning I would agree that's true for Y Combinator, but my experience in the HN _community_ for almost a decade now has suggested that the heavy anti-American sentiment started right around the start of the current administration.
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- InsideOutSanta 1mo ago
  > anti-American sentiment It's always a bit upsetting to me when people conflate criticism of aspects of a country (like its government) with being against that country. I would rather say that it shows that people are pro that country and want it to do better.
  - aliasxneo 1mo ago
    Fair enough. I do have a specific sentiment in mind, though, and it's not the constructive kind, which I very rarely see anymore. I would classify "anti-American sentiment" as sentiment which is against the Western culture that has predominated since the founding of the country. But it's a slippery slope. If someone love America and wants a revolution to turn it into something historically unrecognizable, does that still make them pro-America? I would say no.
Petersipoi 1mo ago
America has the most progressive tax system in the world. There is no other country where the ultra rich pay such percentage of the tax burden. Fuck off with this "Left in the US is center in Europe" bullshit. The EU wishes they were as left as us in a lot of areas. edit: Because this is HN and a lot of you are learning this for the first time: US: $60k salary leads to $50k take home pay, then a less than 10% sales tax Denmark: $60k salary leads to $38k take home pay, then a 25% sales tax All that money you're losing in Denmark is paying for you shittier healthcare. Welcome to a small taste of being outside your echo chamber.
- commoner 1mo ago
  > America has the most progressive tax system in the world. There is no other country where the ultra rich pay such percentage of the tax burden. Nope, not even close. Sort this list by "Highest" and keep in mind that NYC is only one city in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates

by sph 1mo ago

dgellow 1mo ago

> whose centre is firmly to the right compared to the rest of the world. Not really, no. Most of the world is under authoritarian regimes that would be seen as more right leaning. Most democracies are also right leaning. What characterizes the US is being extremely capitalistic and pro-corporations

aliasxneo 1mo ago

> HN is extremely american-leaning I would agree that's true for Y Combinator, but my experience in the HN _community_ for almost a decade now has suggested that the heavy anti-American sentiment started right around the start of the current administration.

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InsideOutSanta 1mo ago
> anti-American sentiment It's always a bit upsetting to me when people conflate criticism of aspects of a country (like its government) with being against that country. I would rather say that it shows that people are pro that country and want it to do better.
- aliasxneo 1mo ago
  Fair enough. I do have a specific sentiment in mind, though, and it's not the constructive kind, which I very rarely see anymore. I would classify "anti-American sentiment" as sentiment which is against the Western culture that has predominated since the founding of the country. But it's a slippery slope. If someone love America and wants a revolution to turn it into something historically unrecognizable, does that still make them pro-America? I would say no.

Petersipoi 1mo ago

America has the most progressive tax system in the world. There is no other country where the ultra rich pay such percentage of the tax burden. Fuck off with this "Left in the US is center in Europe" bullshit. The EU wishes they were as left as us in a lot of areas. edit: Because this is HN and a lot of you are learning this for the first time: US: $60k salary leads to $50k take home pay, then a less than 10% sales tax Denmark: $60k salary leads to $38k take home pay, then a 25% sales tax All that money you're losing in Denmark is paying for you shittier healthcare. Welcome to a small taste of being outside your echo chamber.

commoner 1mo ago
> America has the most progressive tax system in the world. There is no other country where the ultra rich pay such percentage of the tax burden. Nope, not even close. Sort this list by "Highest" and keep in mind that NYC is only one city in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates