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Well, it is a PR problem. It's bad for business to cause a crime spike... that's my point. I never said focus directly on downstream. I thought it would be obv

Well, it is a PR problem. It's bad for business to cause a crime spike... that's my point. I never said focus directly on downstream. I thought it would be obvious that I'm talking about why you bother with upstream, because the downstream effects are important. It seems I phrased something very wrong because it looks like everybody is assuming I'm saying that you should do as much bad as you can possibly prevent people from noticing.

ssivark 1mo ago
It's one of several downstream problems, including poorer quality of life by various metrics. By emphasizing a PR problem for businesses more than other human problems downstream or the root problem, you are demonstrating priorities that prosocial humans viscerally disagree with.