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How, exactly, is it this administration's fault? They didn't create Precheck (which dates back to the Obama admin iirc), and this new facet of Precheck is expli
by bigstrat2003 1mo ago
How, exactly, is it this administration's fault? They didn't create Precheck (which dates back to the Obama admin iirc), and this new facet of Precheck is explicitly stated to not cost extra. So I don't see how you can possibly blame the current administration for monetizing the security regime. At most they are continuing a bad policy that others started.
And to be clear, I think that Precheck is a stupid-ass program. If the security measures are truly necessary, then you shouldn't exempt anyone from them. And if they aren't necessary, then they should be abolished. Precheck always struck me as a tacit admission that the TSA is security theater while trying to make some extra money for the government. But again, that isn't some kind of sin unique to the Trump admin the way you implied.
- Mobius01 1mo agoI didn’t blame the administration for starting Pre-Check: I’m faulting them for not ending it, instead adding another feature to it. The new gate access is free - for TSA Pre-Check enrollees. Meaning this will increase demand for the service. They could have done the population a (rare) solid and found a way to phase out the security theater.
- bigstrat2003 1mo agoYou said: > they simply decided to monetize it. That tracks for this administration. But this administration didn't cause the monetization. I am fine with criticizing them for not ending the TSA - I too think they should end it. But your post implied some kind of corruption angle, one that is specifically due to this administration. And I don't think that criticism holds true. One must criticize them for only the things they've actually done, imo.
- lokar 1mo agoAll of the post 9-11 measures other then: - securing the cockpit - training staff to resist hijacking - ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers Are worthless theater. But, if you don’t accept that, and believe that more physical passenger screening is important, adjusting the level of screening based on a per-passenger threat assessment seems reasonable.
- twoodfin 1mo agoNo selective HUMINT is worthwhile?
- lokar 1mo agoI'm not sure what you mean
- twoodfin 1mo agoAn awful lot of money was spent on systems to track and profile fliers. It’s the reason TSA Precheck is a thing at all.
- lokar 1mo agoI still can’t see the point you are trying to make
- twoodfin 1mo ago“All the post-9/11 security measures other than… are worthless theater.” My point is that many of those security measures are largely invisible to passengers, but for the introduction of things like “Trusted Traveler #”’s
- grishka 1mo ago> ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers You mean you used to be able to just send a bag without flying yourself, and have someone else pick it up at the destination airport? Was this something that people did intentionally or did it happen accidentally?
- lokar 1mo agoYou could check in, check your bags, and then walk out. They would not remove the bag from the plane.