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> The appetite to depart from subscriptions and loaning your personal data to ad/ai companies is stronger than ever. Only on HN, the general public don't care,

by cube00 20d ago

> The appetite to depart from subscriptions and loaning your personal data to ad/ai companies is stronger than ever. Only on HN, the general public don't care, they don't even know the name of their web browser.

sevenzero 20d ago
True, most people get the full ad driven internet experience and it drives me nuts. Everytime I have to help other people with computer stuff I almost get an aneurysm when opening their browser...
- vonunov 20d ago
  At some point I started just installing ABP/uBO without even bothering to ask/tell them, if I had the opportunity. So far my reads seem to have been correct regarding whether this would conflict with each person's typical web use, as I've never heard back about any trouble.
myaccountonhn 20d ago
General public is weird because everyone, yet no one, is the general public. Fwiw I've started to see a shift in many non-tech circles I'm a part of. Especially when you take the time to explain the problems. Many do care, they just aren't made aware of the issues.
- edoceo 20d ago
  GP typically means middle of the bell-curve. HN visitors and for sure commenters are at the edge of that curve...3-sta-nines away.
noman-land 20d ago
The general public will do whatever their friends do. If there was an iPhone charger sized box they could plug in anywhere and have their own personal cloud that can interconnect with other personal clouds, and a celebrity said it was cool to have one, the general public will do it without giving it a first thought.
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- yoz-y 20d ago
  In my experience just telling people to enable Google / Apple backup for photos is a chore at 5€ a month. And for general public this covers 90% of their needs.
- mrtesthah 20d ago
  You mean like this? https://freedombox.org/ https://freedombox.org/ It’s been around since 2010.
  - diggernet 20d ago
    Why didn't you tell me about this years ago?
    - lupire 20d ago
      Because it's not as conventient or functional as cloud and they don't pay me to talk it up.
- gitowiec 20d ago
  There should be influencers or agitators (as named correctly) to tell general public what distro to install, what server to buy and how block tracking and ads
xiaoyu2006 20d ago
Digital rights are indeed important, but only a small portion of the entire concept of human rights. I can imagine general public places much more emphasis on wealth (re-)distribution policies. A lumberjack may also argue GP don't care about environment laws if they had timbernews.
mystifyingpoi 20d ago
Precisely. My uncle has been using the builtin Samsung web browser for years on his phone, just because it said "Internet" in the name, and "Chrome" just wasn't a familiar name to him. Most people are like this.
- tonyhart7 20d ago
  and didn't even matters tbh Samsung web browser uses chromium under the hood
  - zelphirkalt 20d ago
    Syphoned off a lot more data to Samsung though, further supporting and enabling their ugly business practices.
- layer8 20d ago
  I actually prefer the Samsung browser over Chrome.

by cube00 20d ago

sevenzero 20d ago

True, most people get the full ad driven internet experience and it drives me nuts. Everytime I have to help other people with computer stuff I almost get an aneurysm when opening their browser...

vonunov 20d ago
At some point I started just installing ABP/uBO without even bothering to ask/tell them, if I had the opportunity. So far my reads seem to have been correct regarding whether this would conflict with each person's typical web use, as I've never heard back about any trouble.

myaccountonhn 20d ago

General public is weird because everyone, yet no one, is the general public. Fwiw I've started to see a shift in many non-tech circles I'm a part of. Especially when you take the time to explain the problems. Many do care, they just aren't made aware of the issues.

edoceo 20d ago
GP typically means middle of the bell-curve. HN visitors and for sure commenters are at the edge of that curve...3-sta-nines away.

noman-land 20d ago

The general public will do whatever their friends do. If there was an iPhone charger sized box they could plug in anywhere and have their own personal cloud that can interconnect with other personal clouds, and a celebrity said it was cool to have one, the general public will do it without giving it a first thought.

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yoz-y 20d ago
In my experience just telling people to enable Google / Apple backup for photos is a chore at 5€ a month. And for general public this covers 90% of their needs.
mrtesthah 20d ago
You mean like this? https://freedombox.org/ https://freedombox.org/ It’s been around since 2010.
- diggernet 20d ago
  Why didn't you tell me about this years ago?
  - lupire 20d ago
    Because it's not as conventient or functional as cloud and they don't pay me to talk it up.
gitowiec 20d ago
There should be influencers or agitators (as named correctly) to tell general public what distro to install, what server to buy and how block tracking and ads

xiaoyu2006 20d ago

Digital rights are indeed important, but only a small portion of the entire concept of human rights. I can imagine general public places much more emphasis on wealth (re-)distribution policies. A lumberjack may also argue GP don't care about environment laws if they had timbernews.

mystifyingpoi 20d ago

Precisely. My uncle has been using the builtin Samsung web browser for years on his phone, just because it said "Internet" in the name, and "Chrome" just wasn't a familiar name to him. Most people are like this.

tonyhart7 20d ago
and didn't even matters tbh Samsung web browser uses chromium under the hood
- zelphirkalt 20d ago
  Syphoned off a lot more data to Samsung though, further supporting and enabling their ugly business practices.
layer8 20d ago
I actually prefer the Samsung browser over Chrome.