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No thanks, they are loud. I even called that out. But no one should be living next to them. Those people need to get their local government to regulate noise

by jedberg 28d ago

No thanks, they are loud. I even called that out. But no one should be living next to them. Those people need to get their local government to regulate noise from all buildings. The companies won't do it on their own. (This is part of why I no longer help build them, because when I asked about reducing noise and using green power I was laughed at).

lbriner 28d ago
They had an article about Australia embracing AI data centers to be suppliers of the future and not just customers and one big pull is "the vast amounts of land in Australia" then said that one of them is being built within 100m of the nearest suburban house and 200m of a school. It seems with all the other battles to fight, that moving it 2km down the road and surrounding it with trees and parkland would knock the noise argument out of the window. At least in the US and Australia that really do have vast amounts of open space.
hypfer 28d ago
I genuinely do not understand what happened here. Like.. you came in invalidating the people, then, when called out, you say what is effectively "well their criticism is actually right". And.. That's that. I guess. Are you sure that you're taking part in the conversation and not just stringing words together based on probabilities?
1shooner 28d ago
> Those people need to get their local government to regulate noise from all buildings I think this is the core of the 'moral panic'. it isn't anti-AI, it's the fact that many AI datacenter builders have been somewhere between surreptitious and intentionally illegal in their avoidance public knowledge of what they are doing, most likely to avoid exactly the regulation you're recommending. As a result, there's now categorical public distrust of both the industry and the local government that has shirked their obligation to the public welfare. It is reasonable to conclude that you don't act as secretively as these builders have unless you have something to hide.
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by jedberg 28d ago

lbriner 28d ago

They had an article about Australia embracing AI data centers to be suppliers of the future and not just customers and one big pull is "the vast amounts of land in Australia" then said that one of them is being built within 100m of the nearest suburban house and 200m of a school. It seems with all the other battles to fight, that moving it 2km down the road and surrounding it with trees and parkland would knock the noise argument out of the window. At least in the US and Australia that really do have vast amounts of open space.

hypfer 28d ago

I genuinely do not understand what happened here. Like.. you came in invalidating the people, then, when called out, you say what is effectively "well their criticism is actually right". And.. That's that. I guess. Are you sure that you're taking part in the conversation and not just stringing words together based on probabilities?

1shooner 28d ago

> Those people need to get their local government to regulate noise from all buildings I think this is the core of the 'moral panic'. it isn't anti-AI, it's the fact that many AI datacenter builders have been somewhere between surreptitious and intentionally illegal in their avoidance public knowledge of what they are doing, most likely to avoid exactly the regulation you're recommending. As a result, there's now categorical public distrust of both the industry and the local government that has shirked their obligation to the public welfare. It is reasonable to conclude that you don't act as secretively as these builders have unless you have something to hide.

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