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It doesn't try to be productive. It's exposing the hypocrisy of privileged groups suddenly being treated like regular people, when they did NOTHING for decades

by oblio 1mo ago

It doesn't try to be productive. It's exposing the hypocrisy of privileged groups suddenly being treated like regular people, when they did NOTHING for decades to help others or even to protect themselves ("f** you, got mine", rockstar programmer, 10x programmer, talents everywhere, etc mentality). No unions, no collective bargaining, sheer individual greed.

ofjcihen 1mo ago
Do you think that all programmers have always existed in the US? On that note, do you think that all programmers in the US are these Silicon Valley stereotypes? Plenty of programmers in the US make normal wages for professionals with degrees doing things not at the technology companies famous for their disregard of the rest of humanity. As someone who has done trades and also “machine shop programming” and jail breaking rural equipment for friends to use I’m wondering why comments like this are focusing on dividing us instead of bringing us together.
- oblio 1mo ago
  It's a universal programmer trait. Let's call them "culturally regular programmers": they are less social than the average person. They lean more libertarian and more selfish.
  - ofjcihen 1mo ago
    According to who and what? I think the entire open source community would like to have to have a word with you.
    - oblio 1mo ago
      The Open Source community is programmers sharing with other programmers, and it's largely fueled by corporate interests these days. The Free Software movement has largely failed by now, as shown by GPL 3/AGPL adoption. And again, all of this was based on the fact that programmers were a "special breed" of people coddled by corporations. Now that the corporate mask is off and programmers are no longer (as) special, the whining is horrendous. And the libertarianism still won't go away. > According to who and what? To me, I've been around the block for several decades. Again, not everyone, but the culturally regular programmer.

by oblio 1mo ago

ofjcihen 1mo ago

Do you think that all programmers have always existed in the US? On that note, do you think that all programmers in the US are these Silicon Valley stereotypes? Plenty of programmers in the US make normal wages for professionals with degrees doing things not at the technology companies famous for their disregard of the rest of humanity. As someone who has done trades and also “machine shop programming” and jail breaking rural equipment for friends to use I’m wondering why comments like this are focusing on dividing us instead of bringing us together.

oblio 1mo ago
It's a universal programmer trait. Let's call them "culturally regular programmers": they are less social than the average person. They lean more libertarian and more selfish.
- ofjcihen 1mo ago
  According to who and what? I think the entire open source community would like to have to have a word with you.
  - oblio 1mo ago
    The Open Source community is programmers sharing with other programmers, and it's largely fueled by corporate interests these days. The Free Software movement has largely failed by now, as shown by GPL 3/AGPL adoption. And again, all of this was based on the fact that programmers were a "special breed" of people coddled by corporations. Now that the corporate mask is off and programmers are no longer (as) special, the whining is horrendous. And the libertarianism still won't go away. > According to who and what? To me, I've been around the block for several decades. Again, not everyone, but the culturally regular programmer.