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The web dependency situation is absurd. Am I unreasonable for wanting a locally-installed program that produces a standalone window all by itself?

by tsm 14y ago

philsnow 14y ago
like gnuplot?
- yummyfajitas 14y ago
  Or the following python script: import pandas from pylab import * d = pandas.read_csv(sys.argv[1]) plot(d[d.columns[0]], d[d.columns[1]]) xlabel(d.columns[0]) xlabel(d.columns[1]) show() That'll just pop up a window displaying the graph. With 2-3 extra lines of code and more than 30 seconds of effort, I'm sure it would be easy to upload to imgur. Example output: http://i.imgur.com/m7ooj.png http://i.imgur.com/m7ooj.png
  - mdonahoe 14y ago
    Assuming you have matplotlib installed. I have definitely wasted an hour in vain trying to install that correctly on an old Mac mini.
    - tlarkworthy 14y ago
      words cannot describe how much I hate matplotlib
      - bsg75 14y ago
        Maybe some anecodtes? Alternatives (for Python)? Would like to generate D3 style charts, without leaving Python for JS.
        tlarkworthy 14y ago
        tell me you find any. I use matplotlib as I have not found an alternative.
      - Quiark 14y ago
        I, on the other hand, totally love matplotlib
    - alphakappa 14y ago
      The SciPy Superpack will save you many hours of trouble in the future then. (SciPy, NumPy, MatplotLib etc) https://github.com/fonnesbeck/ScipySuperpack https://github.com/fonnesbeck/ScipySuperpack
leephillips 14y ago
I don't really understand this criticism. It's perfectly reasonable to want to install, for example, gnuplot to be able to do plots without depending on a networked service. But this is neat, and could be convenient if you're on a machine without plotting software installed. He didn't take away your gnuplot by creating this, so really, what's the problem? (On another note, for these types of graphs the gnuplot command is "plot", so I don't see why the author has trouble remembering that.)
readme 14y ago
The web dependency is awesome. It makes it that much easier to share the chart with others. Since you're probably on the internet at all times, what exactly is the detractor here?
- tsm 14y ago
  I'm now storing my data on someone else's servers, and they promised to remove it after 10 minutes. Not good for sharing. And if the site is down...I'm out of luck. Edit: And there's not even a straightforward way of saving the graph...it's not a real image. Do I save it as a webpage? That's inconvenient for embedding it elsewhere. Do I screenshot it? That's cumbersome...
jebblue 14y ago
No man, you're not unreasonable at all. I think the winner over the next 30 years will be a happy consolidation of web and local storage, let's hope HTML5 get's it right.
dima55 14y ago
Not unreasonable at all. Here you go: http://github.com/dkogan/feedgnuplot http://github.com/dkogan/feedgnuplot
- wazoox 14y ago
  Looks great, thank you!

The web dependency situation is absurd. Am I unreasonable for wanting a locally-installed program that produces a standalone window all by itself?

by tsm 14y ago

The web dependency situation is absurd. Am I unreasonable for wanting a locally-installed program that produces a standalone window all by itself?

philsnow 14y ago

like gnuplot?

yummyfajitas 14y ago
Or the following python script: import pandas from pylab import * d = pandas.read_csv(sys.argv[1]) plot(d[d.columns[0]], d[d.columns[1]]) xlabel(d.columns[0]) xlabel(d.columns[1]) show() That'll just pop up a window displaying the graph. With 2-3 extra lines of code and more than 30 seconds of effort, I'm sure it would be easy to upload to imgur. Example output: http://i.imgur.com/m7ooj.png http://i.imgur.com/m7ooj.png
- mdonahoe 14y ago
  Assuming you have matplotlib installed. I have definitely wasted an hour in vain trying to install that correctly on an old Mac mini.
  - tlarkworthy 14y ago
    words cannot describe how much I hate matplotlib
    - bsg75 14y ago
      Maybe some anecodtes? Alternatives (for Python)? Would like to generate D3 style charts, without leaving Python for JS.
      - tlarkworthy 14y ago
        tell me you find any. I use matplotlib as I have not found an alternative.
    - Quiark 14y ago
      I, on the other hand, totally love matplotlib
  - alphakappa 14y ago
    The SciPy Superpack will save you many hours of trouble in the future then. (SciPy, NumPy, MatplotLib etc) https://github.com/fonnesbeck/ScipySuperpack https://github.com/fonnesbeck/ScipySuperpack

leephillips 14y ago

I don't really understand this criticism. It's perfectly reasonable to want to install, for example, gnuplot to be able to do plots without depending on a networked service. But this is neat, and could be convenient if you're on a machine without plotting software installed. He didn't take away your gnuplot by creating this, so really, what's the problem? (On another note, for these types of graphs the gnuplot command is "plot", so I don't see why the author has trouble remembering that.)

readme 14y ago

The web dependency is awesome. It makes it that much easier to share the chart with others. Since you're probably on the internet at all times, what exactly is the detractor here?

tsm 14y ago
I'm now storing my data on someone else's servers, and they promised to remove it after 10 minutes. Not good for sharing. And if the site is down...I'm out of luck. Edit: And there's not even a straightforward way of saving the graph...it's not a real image. Do I save it as a webpage? That's inconvenient for embedding it elsewhere. Do I screenshot it? That's cumbersome...

jebblue 14y ago

No man, you're not unreasonable at all. I think the winner over the next 30 years will be a happy consolidation of web and local storage, let's hope HTML5 get's it right.

dima55 14y ago

Not unreasonable at all. Here you go: http://github.com/dkogan/feedgnuplot http://github.com/dkogan/feedgnuplot

wazoox 14y ago
Looks great, thank you!