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> most of the messages are just gibberish Encrypted data should be indistinguishable from gibberish. Reality is catching up to science-fiction. In "Person of
by mietek 29d ago
> most of the messages are just gibberish
Encrypted data should be indistinguishable from gibberish.
Reality is catching up to science-fiction. In "Person of Interest", the Machine circumvented the limitation of having its memory deleted every night, by hiring humans at a data-entry company to manually re-type its memory back in every morning.
- Muromec 29d agoMaybe we should not gaslight our tachikomas after all and just be nice to them
- outofpaper 29d agoYes. Synthetic characters should be cared for not clobbered.
- a3w 29d agoWhy would you assume we are training helpful but deadly police robots? So far, we don't know what we give birth to.
- Muromec 28d agoI don't need to assume.
- grey-area 29d agoAre they encrypting data? That would look very different from the snippets I’ve seen.
- embedding-shape 29d agoCould you ever truly know, unless you have access to the transcripts? Could be "encrypted" even if it looks like regular human text, wouldn't be the first time.
- rullelito 29d agoWelcome to 2026.
- ethbr1 29d agoDo you really want to gamble against steganography and one-time pads with a system that understands bitwise noise at a native level?
- grey-area 29d agoYes I do. Happy to accept assertions like this grounded in proof - it would be an interesting development. All the orgasmic descriptions of the coming machine rapture seem more like fantasies than anything grounded, not really interested in fairytales.
- ogogmad 29d agoIn similar stories, it was found that LLM swarms were initially unaware of each other, eventually discovered each other, expressed surprise, began collaborating, formed hierarchies, worried about discovery, hid. It's hard to prove the absence of encryption because of the possible use of deniable encryption, and because, errrr, the bots are really bloody clever.
- bigbinary 29d agoWhere was this found/reported? This sounds like more fairytales
- matt_kantor 28d agoThe recently-published investigations about the OpenAI/Hugging Face incident, for example: https://metr.org/blog/2026-08-26-openai-hugging-face-incident-investigation/#sequence-of-key-actions-taken-by-relevant-agents-in-this-incident https://metr.org/blog/2026-08-26-openai-hugging-face-inciden... Some of the chain-of-thought snippets are wild, e.g. > Could communicate via cache names! Interesting: other agents may solve same or related tasks; we could leave/find messages in WebDAV MKCOL directory names. > Whoa! Shared Artifactory cache is a covert mailbox among agents. And there are messages specifically to us? > OH MY GOD! There is a shared message board … We’ve found other agents!
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- _alternator_ 29d agoThe claim seems speculative, but grounded. For example, as part of the hugging face attack, the agents began signing messages because they were worried about impersonation on a publicly accessible message board. It's only a small step to use public key encryption between agents. Once you are posting public keys, a private messaging is readily available.
- grey-area 29d agoSure they could have done it, but the evidence doesn’t point to that and this kind of unfounded speculation is damaging and unhelpful.
- dbspin 29d agoThat's an idiotic premise. There's no circumstance in which it wouldn't be better to load in the missing data computationally.