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What's even worse: the court fined us because they claimed this use case was in some way in contempt of their ruling. Then, when we won the overall case, that m
by johnhtodd 1mo ago
What's even worse: the court fined us because they claimed this use case was in some way in contempt of their ruling. Then, when we won the overall case, that money was never returned because it wasn't specifically referenced by the final court. The response from the lower court was effectively: "Well, you will need to sue the court to get that money back." <table flip>
Edit: I'm with Quad9 (CTO)
- avhception 1mo agoThe hubris of the courts can be stunning. Sorry from Germany. And thanks for the great DNS service, I'm using it everywhere!
- u1hcw9nx 29d ago>wasn't specifically referenced by the final court. Maybe your lawyer fucked up? Did you immediately appeal the fine or request a stay pending the main action? Appeal court ruled on the substantive case. My understanding is that in Germany it has no procedural jurisdiction to order the state treasury to refund an enforcement fine. You need restitution claim that makes the thing yet another hoop.
- johnhtodd 29d agoCost and staff time to pursue were not significantly higher than the return. We just want to help people with security and privacy and do DNS stuff - this legal fighting is absurd and misplaced and a spectacular waste of time, but here we are.
- n0on3 29d agoThat’s insane. Thank you for the service you provide.
- anonzzzies 29d agoMaybe Mullvad can help fight this type of nonsense?