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Not relevant to the point - "I gave my item to my former friend Paul". For some reason or for some other, it happens. And miscalculations in game theory happen

by mdp2021 1mo ago

Not relevant to the point - "I gave my item to my former friend Paul". For some reason or for some other, it happens. And miscalculations in game theory happen ("he wouldn't, given...").

speedgoose 1mo ago
I put my gold in the safe of my best friend, he has a good safe. Then I rapped and killed his wife and children, and destroyed his house. But he doesn’t want to give me the gold back.
- mdp2021 1mo ago
  You are doing the complexity of history, and the due diligence of objective assessment and focus, a great disservice with those gross similes. Let us stick to a fitting analysis for the point of the limited trust entities can give each other, and let us stick to actual events for what the crimes committed are concerned (for the respect due).
  - dbdr 1mo ago
    Putin is under an arrest warrant from the International Criminal Court for war crimes. Rapes and killings are widely documented as part of the war he started. I don't think the parent comment was overstating the crimes in question in its simile.
    - tim333 1mo ago
      The biggest thing wrong is Russia's gold isn't in the EU. It's actually the other way round - Russia has kind of stolen Spain's gold, at least has it and won't return it.
      - ProfessorLayton 1mo ago
        >Russia has kind of stolen Spain's gold… For historical reasons, this is kind of amusing.
    - mdp2021 1mo ago
      > I don't think the parent comment was overstating the crimes Said comment was understating the crimes, but also misrepresenting them in context. Those crimes are exceptional in ferality, not exceptional as abstracted within the difficulties of trust building. (Which is also gained diplomatically, and diplomacy has clearly failed - bilaterally).
- momocowcow 1mo ago
  ok, but russia and the west were never best friends, just some russians have major crushes on western europe and would still trust the europeans to hold their gold more than their own russian compatriots :))
baxtr 1mo ago
Miscalculation is the right word. And: it is relevant. You gave away the relevancy yourself. It is called game theory. Games have rules. Break rules see what happens. Or instead be prepared. Seems like someone broke rules but wasn't thinking through consequences or didn't care about them
- mdp2021 1mo ago
  Ok, so you meant, with «I really wonder why - something must have happened», that what happened is that they did not calculate it through properly. But that is suggested for a large number of the players in that game. All losers, or going trough a very suboptimal path. It would be realistic if administrations went through a path in decision making guided by the awareness of their own weakness in decision making abilities.

by mdp2021 1mo ago

Not relevant to the point - "I gave my item to my former friend Paul". For some reason or for some other, it happens. And miscalculations in game theory happen ("he wouldn't, given...").

speedgoose 1mo ago

I put my gold in the safe of my best friend, he has a good safe. Then I rapped and killed his wife and children, and destroyed his house. But he doesn’t want to give me the gold back.

mdp2021 1mo ago
You are doing the complexity of history, and the due diligence of objective assessment and focus, a great disservice with those gross similes. Let us stick to a fitting analysis for the point of the limited trust entities can give each other, and let us stick to actual events for what the crimes committed are concerned (for the respect due).
- dbdr 1mo ago
  Putin is under an arrest warrant from the International Criminal Court for war crimes. Rapes and killings are widely documented as part of the war he started. I don't think the parent comment was overstating the crimes in question in its simile.
  - tim333 1mo ago
    The biggest thing wrong is Russia's gold isn't in the EU. It's actually the other way round - Russia has kind of stolen Spain's gold, at least has it and won't return it.
    - ProfessorLayton 1mo ago
      >Russia has kind of stolen Spain's gold… For historical reasons, this is kind of amusing.
  - mdp2021 1mo ago
    > I don't think the parent comment was overstating the crimes Said comment was understating the crimes, but also misrepresenting them in context. Those crimes are exceptional in ferality, not exceptional as abstracted within the difficulties of trust building. (Which is also gained diplomatically, and diplomacy has clearly failed - bilaterally).
momocowcow 1mo ago
ok, but russia and the west were never best friends, just some russians have major crushes on western europe and would still trust the europeans to hold their gold more than their own russian compatriots :))

baxtr 1mo ago

Miscalculation is the right word. And: it is relevant. You gave away the relevancy yourself. It is called game theory. Games have rules. Break rules see what happens. Or instead be prepared. Seems like someone broke rules but wasn't thinking through consequences or didn't care about them

mdp2021 1mo ago
Ok, so you meant, with «I really wonder why - something must have happened», that what happened is that they did not calculate it through properly. But that is suggested for a large number of the players in that game. All losers, or going trough a very suboptimal path. It would be realistic if administrations went through a path in decision making guided by the awareness of their own weakness in decision making abilities.