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The reason consciousness is not defined in any reducible manner beyond “the lights are on” or “first person experience” is because it is an irreducible aspect o
by GPerson 1mo ago
The reason consciousness is not defined in any reducible manner beyond “the lights are on” or “first person experience” is because it is an irreducible aspect of reality. Instead of seeing it for what it is you instead invent some trivial definition that has nothing to do with anything.
“Zero intelligence cannot have consciousness…”
Based on your complete misunderstanding of the concept sure. But there’s no reason intelligence is required for the actual concept of phenomenal consciousness.
- scotty79 1mo ago> because it is an irreducible aspect of reality Wasn't that claimed about so so many things since before science existed and basically almost every time it turned out that we thought that just because of our ignorance? Ignorance so deep that often we didn't even knew yet how to properly define the thing we were trying to figure out? > But there’s no reason intelligence is required for the actual concept of phenomenal consciousness. That's a pretty strong evidence that phenomenal consciousness makes no sense whatsoever.