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That 35% will change their tune if it screws their stuff up. Trump et al is great in the large unless he's your business partner or boss screwing your money and

by scrubs 1mo ago

That 35% will change their tune if it screws their stuff up. Trump et al is great in the large unless he's your business partner or boss screwing your money and life up, hitting on your wife or daughter, owes you money etc. Cheap symbolism is appealing in a fog only, not in your face.

tstrimple 1mo ago
I think you’re underestimating the true believers. Plenty of conservatives are willing to suffer if they think it makes others suffer more. See Dying of Whiteness.
rfrey 29d ago
Plenty of people have become alienated from their own family due to blind loyalty to Trump and support for his cruelty. They remain loyal.
- scrubs 26d ago
  All the time? Oh, c'mon! By the way two important social media strategies whether on TV or in text forums are, 1) appear unflappable 2) never deviate from the talking points Read (1) and (2) with an implied parenthetical phrase: "when in public" These are effective because the other side usually settles for small wins of seeing their counterpart flinch, feel lost or embarrassed i.e. to win in a fleeting way. Therefore, to the degree you can keep a straight face the better you deflect these small wins ... in public. It has a strong secondary benefit of removing from context common sense, consistency i.e. the realm of cause/effect, policy where reality is more closely aligned. And when that goes out the window, your runway to BS is 10x longer. Ejecting family wrongly arrested, misidentified, or those have followed the law (meager and crappy as it is sometimes), or who are denied due process is not unalloyed win in private people claim in public. Even if the guy is here is illegal and should be removed ... there's kids, money, and other dependencies involved. It's not the clean win people say. What goes on off camera and off the HTML page is a whole other reality. Here's an anecdote I heard personally: a guy I know went to Mar a Largo for a business function not related to Trump, but as a club house selling its meeting rooms and menu for revenue. My buddy is a non-white guy of considerable wealth, business success, and connections. This guy allegedly ran into Harris Faulkner (FOX news host) . During chit-chat she said she told this guy she does not associate with everything she says on camera. She continued to explain by saying she presents a viewpoint her employer pays her to convey.
  - cindyllm 26d ago
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budman1 29d ago
The stories hit reddit every day. "ICE deported my wife. She was legal and was following the rules. I still love my Donald and will vote for him again"

by scrubs 1mo ago

tstrimple 1mo ago

I think you’re underestimating the true believers. Plenty of conservatives are willing to suffer if they think it makes others suffer more. See Dying of Whiteness.

rfrey 29d ago

Plenty of people have become alienated from their own family due to blind loyalty to Trump and support for his cruelty. They remain loyal.

scrubs 26d ago
All the time? Oh, c'mon! By the way two important social media strategies whether on TV or in text forums are, 1) appear unflappable 2) never deviate from the talking points Read (1) and (2) with an implied parenthetical phrase: "when in public" These are effective because the other side usually settles for small wins of seeing their counterpart flinch, feel lost or embarrassed i.e. to win in a fleeting way. Therefore, to the degree you can keep a straight face the better you deflect these small wins ... in public. It has a strong secondary benefit of removing from context common sense, consistency i.e. the realm of cause/effect, policy where reality is more closely aligned. And when that goes out the window, your runway to BS is 10x longer. Ejecting family wrongly arrested, misidentified, or those have followed the law (meager and crappy as it is sometimes), or who are denied due process is not unalloyed win in private people claim in public. Even if the guy is here is illegal and should be removed ... there's kids, money, and other dependencies involved. It's not the clean win people say. What goes on off camera and off the HTML page is a whole other reality. Here's an anecdote I heard personally: a guy I know went to Mar a Largo for a business function not related to Trump, but as a club house selling its meeting rooms and menu for revenue. My buddy is a non-white guy of considerable wealth, business success, and connections. This guy allegedly ran into Harris Faulkner (FOX news host) . During chit-chat she said she told this guy she does not associate with everything she says on camera. She continued to explain by saying she presents a viewpoint her employer pays her to convey.
- cindyllm 26d ago
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budman1 29d ago

The stories hit reddit every day. "ICE deported my wife. She was legal and was following the rules. I still love my Donald and will vote for him again"