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I remember noticing this shift in nerd culture. In the early 2000s, it was common for people to say on places like Slashdot that they don't trust JavaScript and
by asveikau 1mo ago
I remember noticing this shift in nerd culture. In the early 2000s, it was common for people to say on places like Slashdot that they don't trust JavaScript and run their browser with it off. In the early 2010s, I noticed HN commenters thought this was insane, tinfoil hat type thinking.
- Espressosaurus 1mo agoIt became insane because nothing bloody worked without Javascript some time in the early 2010s. Like cellphones, javascript became necessary if you want to use webmail, access your bank's website, or whatever.
- nixosbestos 1mo agoI say this as someone does NOT disable JS in my main browser (because like, I have a job), but also knows a fair bit about why Firefox inside Tails now restarts in some cases... It's the classic thing. Across every gdmf metric, excluding with "true empathy", no one *gives a fuck* until it affects them, or someone within (1-3) degrees of separatation. And having broad empathy is generally a good way to get yourself labeled/astrocized: both about as obvious "compriate" and obvious "adversary".
- dbdr 1mo agoIs compriate a typo, a neologism? I could not find a definition.
- abanana 1mo agoThe end of that post came out in such a mess, it must be a typo for something - "compatriot" maybe? I like the other standout neologism in there though, I can see it in a dictionary now: astrocized - banished to outer space.
- nixosbestos 1mo agothe end of that post sure did turn out a disaster and I'm not even sure what I meant. Pretty... awful. I do know how to spell ostracized ? I'm not sure if that's what I meant? Truly a mess.
- ThunderSizzle 1mo agoI still run with u matrix though, and most third party requests can be limited, but I no longer have enough patience when a required page doesn't work - I'll just rely on ublock origin to work.
- xorcist 1mo ago... or just use Google even.
- whizzter 1mo agoI still do "random" browsing in FF with NoScript, that said, I'll acknowledge the frequency of updates of Chrome,etc and years of hardening. It's not the Bonzi-buddy and driveby-installed IE toolbars wild west of the early 00s.
- nik282000 1mo agoThe browsers on the computers at work show that it is very much still the driveby tool-bar install days.
- no-name-here 1mo ago> it is very much still the driveby tool-bar install days Can you please provide a link to a page where a “toolbar drive-by install” occurs?
- bawolff 1mo agoIn fairness, in the early 2000s they were probably right. Early browser security model was a bit of a mess. The fact that this article is even talked about is a sign of how much better things are.
- l00sed 1mo agoIt's so ubiquitous and unavoidable at this point.. I was at a conference lecture in 2020 where someone was suggesting disabling JavaScript and I thought the same thing— how absurd. The times have really changed...
- Sharlin 1mo agoIn the early 2000s JS was used for silly novelty effects and some rudimentary DOM manipulation with `innerHTML`. In the early 2010s you had to have JS enabled for many sites to work at all. The cost:benefit equation had became entirely different.