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Android Open Source Project userspace code runs on any devices with Treble. That means it runs on any certified Android devices with the ability to install anot
by grapheneos 2mo ago
Android Open Source Project userspace code runs on any devices with Treble. That means it runs on any certified Android devices with the ability to install another OS. Updates and security features for the Linux kernel, drivers, firmware and hardware are still needed.
Fairphone 5 and earlier have end-of-life Linux kernel branches without security support. Those lag multiple years behind on providing full Android security updates. The 1-2 month delays for partial security backports is compared to the Android security bulletins and is actually a much longer delay compared to when the patches are made available to ship by OEMs.
- realusername 2mo agoIn theory you can try to do that with Treble but in practice the experience will be horrible, there's not even a functional keyboard nor a functional call manager in there. And yes all the Linux side of things is still missing.
- grapheneos 2mo agoThat's not true. AOSP has a functional keyboard and Dialer app. There are also many third party apps for both available. Linux does not mean glibc, systemd, Bash, GNU coreutils, Wayland/X11, Pulseaudio/Pipewire, etc. Android distributions are Linux distributions and are not missing what makes it Linux. The same goes for embedded and server Linux distributions without those components.
- realusername 1mo agoAgree to disagree then, AOSP apps feel abandonned since roughly Android 11 and I don't think they are fit for modern use anymore