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When I worked for office with about 40 employees in 2001 or so, the FBI came to our office to arrest a guy using I think Limewire over our high speed internet a

When I worked for office with about 40 employees in 2001 or so, the FBI came to our office to arrest a guy using I think Limewire over our high speed internet access to share music and videos. It may be so common these days they only crack down like that on really egregious abuse.

alex7o 29d ago
I think they are training ai porn so ... this should be a lawsuit
- cma 29d ago
  More likely training porn detectors for moderating the feed
  - alex7o 28d ago
    You are most likely correct but that sounds less fun. Also they can do it much smarter way. Just ask these companies for content so they can detect it and prevent copyright infringement
busterarm 29d ago
Around that same time my own brother was working at the second largest record label in the world and their own servers were hacked and serving about 1/3 of global warez downloads. Law enforcement didn’t get involved and nobody did shit about it. Not even the last time that company was massively hacked. ;)
sandworm101 29d ago
It had to be more complicated than simple copyright infringement for the cops to get involved.
- axus 29d ago
  The music industry had more political power in 2001 than it does now.
  - sandworm101 29d ago
    Or he was sharing other material that was kept quiet.
    - joemi 29d ago
      The raid being due solely to music copyright infringement is really the most likely situation. There's no need to imply it was anything else. For example, in 2009 I worked at a record store that got raided due to such claims. The RIAA's informant claimed he had seen people selling hidden bootlegs, which absolutely wasn't happening, and that was all they needed to have cops raid the store, arrest several people and cart off boxes of not-bootlegged, sold-by-major-CD-distributors CDs. Court dates followed and the case was eventually dismissed (or settled due to being more convenient than continuing the case? I can't remember), but it still took time, money, and lawyers. And this was in 2009, when the recording industry wield less power than in 2001. (I was running late for work that day or else I would have ended up arrested too, since I was one of the managers scheduled then. Thank god I was running late!)
      - k310 28d ago
        As a procrastinator, I applaud you. Tomorrow.
    - stevenwoo 29d ago
      I don’t know, rolled into work at 10 and only saw they were giving him the perp walk to the car and I only heard about the details from coworkers, wasn’t close to him.
  - autoexec 29d ago
    The RIAA still has insane amounts of power both political and actual. They got away with successfully suing an ISP for billions over of what their customers downloaded and only lost on appeal. They've shaken down several other ISPs for settlement money to avoid going to court. Lately they've also been going after stream rippers, AI start ups, and archive.org I think the MPAA has more money to throw around these days, but don't let the RIAA tell you that piracy is killing them. They're doing just fine (https://www.riaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/2026-Mid-Year-Music-Industry-Revenue-Report.pdf https://www.riaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/2026-Mid-Yea...)
shimman 29d ago
This is crazy. Worked at a national ISP/telecom and one of the directors openly had a seedbox and was torrenting massive amount of things. Chalked it up as the poors being held to different standards as this person had a close relationship with one of the executives.
abofh 29d ago
I mean basically that. If you hit a corporate IP, unless they have flow level logging or you have very extensive timestamps, then the game ends, company says they've enacted new training or controls, but they can't identify a specific person and it's not their fault. Essentially - this is not a suggestion. Residential ip's map to a specific person, and it's a lot harder for them to deflect and say I'm not responsible for my own Internet connection
- teiferer 29d ago
  > Residential ip's map to a specific person, Since when does every household member have their own residential IP? Even in single households that's not true (friends visiting, on-and-off partner, one night stands, helping the neighbor out cause their wifi is broken, ...) And I don't know the logging + data retention requirements for CGNAT.
  - autoexec 29d ago
    > Since when does every household member have their own residential IP? Isn't that the dream of IPv6? Every member and device in your home trackable all the time?
    - b112 29d ago
      Thank you for making it clear why IPv6 must not succeed. Long Live IPV8.
    - bityard 29d ago
      Most devices should be using temporary dynamic IPv6 addresses, for this exact reason. I believe this is the default on most Linux distributions, not sure about others.
      - cube00 29d ago
        I felt quite let down when I realised Fedora which bills itself as "free & private" didn't use temporary addresses by default and I had to go hunting for configuration files to enable it as it's not exposed in the UI either. https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/ipv6-privacy-option-as-default/178479 https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/ipv6-privacy-option-a... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2280924#c3 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2280924#c3

alex7o 29d ago

I think they are training ai porn so ... this should be a lawsuit

cma 29d ago
More likely training porn detectors for moderating the feed
- alex7o 28d ago
  You are most likely correct but that sounds less fun. Also they can do it much smarter way. Just ask these companies for content so they can detect it and prevent copyright infringement

busterarm 29d ago

Around that same time my own brother was working at the second largest record label in the world and their own servers were hacked and serving about 1/3 of global warez downloads. Law enforcement didn’t get involved and nobody did shit about it. Not even the last time that company was massively hacked. ;)

sandworm101 29d ago

It had to be more complicated than simple copyright infringement for the cops to get involved.

axus 29d ago
The music industry had more political power in 2001 than it does now.
- sandworm101 29d ago
  Or he was sharing other material that was kept quiet.
  - joemi 29d ago
    The raid being due solely to music copyright infringement is really the most likely situation. There's no need to imply it was anything else. For example, in 2009 I worked at a record store that got raided due to such claims. The RIAA's informant claimed he had seen people selling hidden bootlegs, which absolutely wasn't happening, and that was all they needed to have cops raid the store, arrest several people and cart off boxes of not-bootlegged, sold-by-major-CD-distributors CDs. Court dates followed and the case was eventually dismissed (or settled due to being more convenient than continuing the case? I can't remember), but it still took time, money, and lawyers. And this was in 2009, when the recording industry wield less power than in 2001. (I was running late for work that day or else I would have ended up arrested too, since I was one of the managers scheduled then. Thank god I was running late!)
    - k310 28d ago
      As a procrastinator, I applaud you. Tomorrow.
  - stevenwoo 29d ago
    I don’t know, rolled into work at 10 and only saw they were giving him the perp walk to the car and I only heard about the details from coworkers, wasn’t close to him.
- autoexec 29d ago
  The RIAA still has insane amounts of power both political and actual. They got away with successfully suing an ISP for billions over of what their customers downloaded and only lost on appeal. They've shaken down several other ISPs for settlement money to avoid going to court. Lately they've also been going after stream rippers, AI start ups, and archive.org I think the MPAA has more money to throw around these days, but don't let the RIAA tell you that piracy is killing them. They're doing just fine (https://www.riaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/2026-Mid-Year-Music-Industry-Revenue-Report.pdf https://www.riaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/2026-Mid-Yea...)

shimman 29d ago

This is crazy. Worked at a national ISP/telecom and one of the directors openly had a seedbox and was torrenting massive amount of things. Chalked it up as the poors being held to different standards as this person had a close relationship with one of the executives.

abofh 29d ago

I mean basically that. If you hit a corporate IP, unless they have flow level logging or you have very extensive timestamps, then the game ends, company says they've enacted new training or controls, but they can't identify a specific person and it's not their fault. Essentially - this is not a suggestion. Residential ip's map to a specific person, and it's a lot harder for them to deflect and say I'm not responsible for my own Internet connection

teiferer 29d ago
> Residential ip's map to a specific person, Since when does every household member have their own residential IP? Even in single households that's not true (friends visiting, on-and-off partner, one night stands, helping the neighbor out cause their wifi is broken, ...) And I don't know the logging + data retention requirements for CGNAT.
- autoexec 29d ago
  > Since when does every household member have their own residential IP? Isn't that the dream of IPv6? Every member and device in your home trackable all the time?
  - b112 29d ago
    Thank you for making it clear why IPv6 must not succeed. Long Live IPV8.
  - bityard 29d ago
    Most devices should be using temporary dynamic IPv6 addresses, for this exact reason. I believe this is the default on most Linux distributions, not sure about others.
    - cube00 29d ago
      I felt quite let down when I realised Fedora which bills itself as "free & private" didn't use temporary addresses by default and I had to go hunting for configuration files to enable it as it's not exposed in the UI either. https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/ipv6-privacy-option-as-default/178479 https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/ipv6-privacy-option-a... https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2280924#c3 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2280924#c3