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>but some people need to spend a significant amount of their lives in prison. Short of rewriting the constitution, that just isn't going to happen. The preside
by krapp 1mo ago
>but some people need to spend a significant amount of their lives in prison.
Short of rewriting the constitution, that just isn't going to happen. The president is immune to prosecution for any crime committed in office and has unlimited power to pardon anyone else of any federal crimes.
And if the Democrats even attempt to do anything of the sort, people will just consider it a partisan witchhunt. It will be litigated all the way to a SCOTUS that's stacked with Trumpist ideologues.
- badc0ffee 1mo ago> a SCOTUS that's stacked with Trumpist ideologues. It's majority conservative, but that's not the same thing as what you're claiming here. It has 3 members appointed by Trump, but even that doesn't make them Trumpist ideologues.
- krapp 1mo agoI don't believe for a second that Trump, being the narcissist that he is, would appoint anyone but ideologues.
- edmundsauto 1mo agoProbably more loyalists than ideologues. It’s the Project 2025 influence that has the ideologues. And the Thiel/Vance sector has the traditional influence-focused corruption, while the Trump family is more low-trust-society personal enrichment grift. Quite a perfect storm.
- hiddencost 1mo agoI really can't find any other possible interpretation of their wall to wall decisions on anything election related. They are a knowing and enthusiastic participant in the coup.
- estearum 1mo agoThomas is a born and bred loser, but otherwise they're afraid of being assassinated. Judges are under massive, massive amounts of threat whenever they think to hold Trump to literally any scrutiny whatsoever. Not a conspiracy theory, this is an open discussion topic among federal judges within their own conferences.
- mistrial9 1mo agono this is false and a superficial search confirms it. No need to make extensive citations because this level of talk does not warrant it.
- krapp 1mo agoprovide one citation, then.
- Jtsummers 1mo agohttps://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf > The president is immune to prosecution for any crime committed in office That's a misreading of the SC decision. If he walks down the street and murders someone, unless he can make a case that it was an official act, then he wouldn't have immunity. He'd need to demonstrate that he has the Constitutional authority to murder people on the street, and he doesn't, so it wouldn't be an official act and he wouldn't have any immunity.
- LadyCailin 1mo agoHow about not on the street, but in a boat in international waters? Or, how about on the street, but they were believed to be carrying drugs?
- convolvatron 1mo agook, so we managed to get a decision that the president wan't immune from having to pay out in a civil suit related to the molestation of a woman from before he even became a politician. but part of the problem here is the blurring of the personal and the official. should the president be liable for overtly violating the constitution 'while performing official acts'. Is interfering in the state's right to hold their own elections an official act? is instructing the military to order someone in cold blood an official act? does pursuing a series of novel legal interpretations imply that he was violating the law or not? is accepting money in exchange for a presidential pardon an official act? whether or not you believe this is a pass from the Supreme Court, it opens up a whole new unexplored space of lack of culpability.
- pasquinelli 1mo ago> Short of rewriting the constitution, that just isn't going to happen then a new constitution it is!
- bugbull 1mo ago[dead]
- anigbrowl 1mo agoRealistically this is what the Constitutional convention mechanism is for, but for the last several decades the Democrats have viewed any suggestion of employing it as a Republican plot and have opted instead for not having a plan and trying to prop up a creaky status quo.
- pjc50 1mo agoPeople will correctly consider it a partisan witchhunt, but that is ultimately the only way back to "normal". Pack the court and start the prosecutions. Look at Hungary and Poland. (The UK has the opportunity to do this before the fash get into power, but we can watch it being fumbled in real time)