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Why the hell would you ever let a TV on any network?

by 0xc133 2mo ago

TheNastyPatty 2mo ago
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- flacebo 2mo ago
  He is right though.
- tigereyeTO 2mo ago
  I bought a new TV in 2026 and refuse to connect it to a network. For good reasonS (plural).
- thesuitonym 2mo ago
  ``The voice came from an oblong metal plaque like a dulled mirror which formed part of the surface of the right-hand wall. . . The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely.'' ``The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it; moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment.''
- pdpi 2mo ago
  That's a needlessly snide take. Any device inside my network that talks to the outside world is a potential vulnerability. TV manufacturers aren't exactly known for their stellar development practices, and dodgy apps on TVs are being used as VPN exit points for cybercrime or scraping. Then there's the part where smart TVs are adding ads to their home screens and other random places. I want my monitors and TVs to be completely dumb. Just a display, the necessary circuitry to plug the display into a bunch of input ports, maybe the necessary circuitry to function as a KVM switch, and nothing else.
- pier25 2mo ago
  Or a guy who realized how much data the tv manufacturers are collecting and selling.
bcraven 2mo ago
So I can run Plex, iPlayer, Netflix, etc etc The majority of content that people watch is distributed over the internet, so our TVs are connected thus.
- bigstrat2003 2mo ago
  True, but it's far better to buy a streaming box (Apple TV, etc) and hook that up to the Internet. Not only does TV software serve you ads, it just plain sucks.
  - expedition32 2mo ago
    I disagree the inbuilt Netflix app is way better than any streaming box. Apple TV serves ads (it's literally called Apple for fuck sake), costs money and extra electricity.
    - iAMkenough 2mo ago
      I disagree, the Apple TV Netflix app is rock solid. Apple’s App Store review process is more robust and avoids things like 90% of webOS apps giving private bidders access to use your home internet connection through a proxy running on your LG TV.
    - flacebo 2mo ago
      That is not my experience, although I haven't tried Apple TV. It's usually the same app, just running on faster hardware (most TVs are slower than a 30$ streaming box). Also it costs much less overall if you don't have to replace your TV because of some streaming app update. If you change your TV regularly enough that this has not been the issue for you yet, then I dare to assume cost shouldn't really be an issue for you. Of course if you can accept all the shitty things TV manufacturers are shoving down our throat, nobody is going to stop you.
    - osndiendkwn 2mo ago
      > Apple TV serves ads (it's literally called Apple for fuck sake) 1. No, it does not. The apps themselves do, but that’s up to each service provider. The hardware/system itself does not serve you ads. 2. Being called “Apple” is precisely how you know you have an experience at least a thousand times better than anything your TV has built in.
mavamaarten 2mo ago
So I can turn it on using Home Assistant reliably.

Why the hell would you ever let a TV on any network?

by 0xc133 2mo ago

Why the hell would you ever let a TV on any network?

TheNastyPatty 2mo ago

[flagged]

flacebo 2mo ago
He is right though.
tigereyeTO 2mo ago
I bought a new TV in 2026 and refuse to connect it to a network. For good reasonS (plural).
thesuitonym 2mo ago
``The voice came from an oblong metal plaque like a dulled mirror which formed part of the surface of the right-hand wall. . . The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely.'' ``The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it; moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard. There was of course no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment.''
pdpi 2mo ago
That's a needlessly snide take. Any device inside my network that talks to the outside world is a potential vulnerability. TV manufacturers aren't exactly known for their stellar development practices, and dodgy apps on TVs are being used as VPN exit points for cybercrime or scraping. Then there's the part where smart TVs are adding ads to their home screens and other random places. I want my monitors and TVs to be completely dumb. Just a display, the necessary circuitry to plug the display into a bunch of input ports, maybe the necessary circuitry to function as a KVM switch, and nothing else.
pier25 2mo ago
Or a guy who realized how much data the tv manufacturers are collecting and selling.

bcraven 2mo ago

So I can run Plex, iPlayer, Netflix, etc etc The majority of content that people watch is distributed over the internet, so our TVs are connected thus.

bigstrat2003 2mo ago
True, but it's far better to buy a streaming box (Apple TV, etc) and hook that up to the Internet. Not only does TV software serve you ads, it just plain sucks.
- expedition32 2mo ago
  I disagree the inbuilt Netflix app is way better than any streaming box. Apple TV serves ads (it's literally called Apple for fuck sake), costs money and extra electricity.
  - iAMkenough 2mo ago
    I disagree, the Apple TV Netflix app is rock solid. Apple’s App Store review process is more robust and avoids things like 90% of webOS apps giving private bidders access to use your home internet connection through a proxy running on your LG TV.
  - flacebo 2mo ago
    That is not my experience, although I haven't tried Apple TV. It's usually the same app, just running on faster hardware (most TVs are slower than a 30$ streaming box). Also it costs much less overall if you don't have to replace your TV because of some streaming app update. If you change your TV regularly enough that this has not been the issue for you yet, then I dare to assume cost shouldn't really be an issue for you. Of course if you can accept all the shitty things TV manufacturers are shoving down our throat, nobody is going to stop you.
  - osndiendkwn 2mo ago
    > Apple TV serves ads (it's literally called Apple for fuck sake) 1. No, it does not. The apps themselves do, but that’s up to each service provider. The hardware/system itself does not serve you ads. 2. Being called “Apple” is precisely how you know you have an experience at least a thousand times better than anything your TV has built in.

mavamaarten 2mo ago

So I can turn it on using Home Assistant reliably.