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I hate to be the one to tell you this, but it has been that way for a long time. The only difference is Trump is doing it out in the open.

by ericmay 1mo ago

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j4yav 1mo ago
That's more or less exactly what someone who wants to openly get away with it would tell you.
- snickerbockers 1mo ago
  Are you saying OP is Donald Trump!?
- KPGv2 1mo ago
  This exactly. The conservative MO has been to accuse everyone else of doing exactly what conservatives do in the shadows, and once everyone believes non-conservatives are corrupt in a certain manner, conservatives goes mask off. Then their supporters shrug their shoulders and say, "Meh, it's okay because everyone else does it." Except that everyone does NOT do these things. It's just the lie campaign took hold.
  - ericmay 1mo ago
    Donald Trump belongs in jail for January 6th (among other things) and it's not ok. But pearl-clutching only about Donald Trump doing it is dumb and doesn't solve the problem. We should oppose corruption and graft everywhere at all times (within our systems), and prior Republican and Democratic administrations (never mind Congress) have done the exact types of things that Trump is doing now. It happens at local levels too, not just at the federal level. If you want to play team sport when it comes to corruption you're simply part of the problem.
    - KPGv2 1mo ago
      I'm responding to someone who accused every politician of engaging in the same level of corruption as Trump. What is your basis for accusing Biden or Obama of even 1/100th of this amount? The Viktor Shokin conspiracy theory? Or the Hunter Biden Burisma story?
Upvoter33 1mo ago
That is woefully naive. But even if so: aren’t you against it?
- ericmay 1mo ago
  It's not naive. In fact any comment to the contrary of what I wrote would be naive. Yes of course I'm against it. I'm against it when Donald Trump does it, and I'm also against it when my local government does it, or Nancy Pelosi does it.
  - batshit_beaver 1mo ago
    There is, however, a question of scale.
    - ericmay 1mo ago
      What is the question? We can obviously pursue multiple cases simultaneously and we can do so effectively.
      - KPGv2 1mo ago
        Scale affects priority. I don't think we have enough federal employees to actually go after everything Trump has done.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but it has been that way for a long time. The only difference is Trump is doing it out in the open.

by ericmay 1mo ago

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but it has been that way for a long time. The only difference is Trump is doing it out in the open.

deleted 1mo ago

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j4yav 1mo ago

That's more or less exactly what someone who wants to openly get away with it would tell you.

snickerbockers 1mo ago
Are you saying OP is Donald Trump!?
KPGv2 1mo ago
This exactly. The conservative MO has been to accuse everyone else of doing exactly what conservatives do in the shadows, and once everyone believes non-conservatives are corrupt in a certain manner, conservatives goes mask off. Then their supporters shrug their shoulders and say, "Meh, it's okay because everyone else does it." Except that everyone does NOT do these things. It's just the lie campaign took hold.
- ericmay 1mo ago
  Donald Trump belongs in jail for January 6th (among other things) and it's not ok. But pearl-clutching only about Donald Trump doing it is dumb and doesn't solve the problem. We should oppose corruption and graft everywhere at all times (within our systems), and prior Republican and Democratic administrations (never mind Congress) have done the exact types of things that Trump is doing now. It happens at local levels too, not just at the federal level. If you want to play team sport when it comes to corruption you're simply part of the problem.
  - KPGv2 1mo ago
    I'm responding to someone who accused every politician of engaging in the same level of corruption as Trump. What is your basis for accusing Biden or Obama of even 1/100th of this amount? The Viktor Shokin conspiracy theory? Or the Hunter Biden Burisma story?

Upvoter33 1mo ago

That is woefully naive. But even if so: aren’t you against it?

ericmay 1mo ago
It's not naive. In fact any comment to the contrary of what I wrote would be naive. Yes of course I'm against it. I'm against it when Donald Trump does it, and I'm also against it when my local government does it, or Nancy Pelosi does it.
- batshit_beaver 1mo ago
  There is, however, a question of scale.
  - ericmay 1mo ago
    What is the question? We can obviously pursue multiple cases simultaneously and we can do so effectively.
    - KPGv2 1mo ago
      Scale affects priority. I don't think we have enough federal employees to actually go after everything Trump has done.