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IBM hasn't made a product that works since Db2 so I am fairly confident this is a flaming pile of garbage.
by getatme32 22d ago
IBM hasn't made a product that works since Db2 so I am fairly confident this is a flaming pile of garbage.
- pytlicek 22d agoNo, you are wrong. IBMer here. I was at first agains it, my background is for 2 decades startup(s) before I joined IBM, and I started slowly using IBM Bob and I must say it is really good and helping. With many integrations that works :)
- sroerick 22d agoLol
- aslkajdfklnlkwn 22d agolol, I've used it and Bob is a dumpster fire.
- fodkodrasz 21d agoDo you have to have experience with AWS Kiro? I'd be interested in a comparision between them. :)
- pytlicek 18d agorlly? cs it is IMHO based on anthropic / openai models. Perhaps they identified BFU and gave you some
- aslkajdfklnlkwn 17d agoso it tops out at sonnet 4.5 as the largest model it will use. the harness gives you no choice in the model so you have to hope it doesn't decide your task isn't complex enough and auto-route you to a smaller/weaker model which you then go round and round in circles with where a larger model would've 1 shotted it
- Saline9515 22d agoWhat is good about it then? What model do you use? Which integration are we talking about? Is it open source? How much the "transparent pricing" "bobcoin" is worth?
- nosefurhairdo 22d agoIt's not good, they hide the model (their whole thing is hidden model routing to keep costs low, but predictably yields bad results), there are no novel integrations not available in any other harness, it's closed source, and bobcoin is worthless because it's only usable with Bob.
- pytlicek 18d agoAnd what? IDK about BOB that is available for IBM customers, but closed source? As someone wrote in different thread is based on VScode, calling BOB's API. Also do you know how chatgpt works? same for claude? Agents? Governance? You know nothing and now just hating here :)
- aslkajdfklnlkwn 17d agothe bob team aggressively blocks you from calling the bob api and is constantly finding new ways to thwart calling the api directly
- rusticpenn 19d agoIt uses hidden models, mostly Claude and open ai models. They try to check the prompt and route to the model that is capable of it, thus saving money.
- pytlicek 18d agoI think this is it ^^^ Routing and optimizations :)
- EgregiousCube 22d agoIs it true that employees have to earn Bobcoins before they can use Bob?
- quietsegfault 22d agoYou get more bobcoins by using your old allowance and running out, then submitting GitHub issues that get ignored.
- alienbaby 21d agoNo.
- pytlicek 18d agoNo
- quietsegfault 22d agoAre you allowed to use Cursor, Codex, Claude, or OpenCode or is Bob all they allow?
- getatme32 22d agoI have been told only Bob is allowed but not 100% on that.
- pytlicek 18d agoAlso copilot and MS365 copilot, many local models etc... Many haters (companies, etc...) can only dream about availability of models we usually have here.
- nosefurhairdo 22d agoOfficial policy is to only use Bob. All of the best people I work with are using other tools because Bob is trash.
- insane_dreamer 22d agois bob helping with ur writing too? ;p
- jatora 22d agoWhen people say they have been in startups for long periods, does this mean they worked at a chain of failed companies?
- pytlicek 18d agoNo no no :) They want(ed) just change :)
- _zoltan_ 22d agoI wish you study the Wikipedia page, please. it's a very old company and we have invented really cool stuff. signed: a proud IBMer
- quietsegfault 22d agoWhat makes you proud about IBM currently? IBM’s “RA” culture fostering Machiavellian politics, singleminded view of next quarter’s success, and asinine yet draconian bureaucracy are three out of MANY reasons why I’m embarrassed to have had IBM forced into my career and got the hell out as fast as possible each time.
- Stevvo 22d agoI don't work at IBM but there are many things to admire. e.g. You can take software written 40 years and run on a new IBM system today without even recompiling it thanks to the Machine Interface. Have fun trying to run a 40 year old C++ program.
- jatora 22d agoeasy. "claude, get this c++ program working" these types of moats are all but obliterated.
- alienbaby 21d agoI have worked for IBM, I do gotta say I was impressed with what they are doing in storage.
- shellwizard 22d agoNot an IBMer, but IBM MQ and Sterling Connect:Direct are both solid, I use them daily and they work wonderfully, although they can be a real bitch to set up and use in certain scenarios.
- getatme32 22d agoA bit of hyperbole by me since db2 was made in 1983. But MQ was created in 1993. Sterling was an acquisition. The majority of products that actually work were acquired. Very little if anything of value since 2005+ that was actually IBM created. (Bob appears fully IBM created)