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I would love a Fairphone, but no headphone jack is a nonstarter for me. Still blows me away that a company saying they are focused on longevity would get rid of
by bigstrat2003 1mo ago
I would love a Fairphone, but no headphone jack is a nonstarter for me. Still blows me away that a company saying they are focused on longevity would get rid of a universal audio interface that we've had for decades. In the article they claim it's to fit other features in, but frankly that's not a believable claim. Other manufacturers manage to get a headphone jack in just fine, without any noticeable downside.
- mdp2021 1mo agoI absolutely concour about the need of a headphone jack - I do not buy anything without it. So, > to fit other features in what exactly, one would ask. If there are tradeoffs, if would be nice if the customers can decide what to have, in a modular product.
- neobrain 1mo ago> If there are tradeoffs, if would be nice if the customers can decide what to have, in a modular product. A "modular product" has tradeoffs in and of itself (such as size, price, water resistance, …), which presumably would not fly for a majority of customers.
- sellmesoap 1mo agoYes, the water resistance is what keeps my phone from dying if I go for a hike in the rain or a small splashy boat ride, replacing the water damaged motherboard isn't as sustainable as buying a used flagship phone from an earlier time.
- prmoustache 1mo agoAt this point headphones with an usb-c connection have become nearly as common as 3.5mm trs ones. Additionally you can permamently hook a small usb-c dac with 3.5mm trs output to the headphones of your choice. Only issue is some very cheap ones are actually bluetooth headphones in disguise where the usb-c connection only exist to power the bt recepter inside the headphone. I find this completely stupid.
- mdp2021 1mo agoI tried the "jack to USB-C" in the only product I was forced to that needed it: an unthinkable battery drain.
- ValdikSS 1mo agoThe headphone jack is inside USB-C connector. You can use USB-C-to-3.5mm passive (!) cable to connect your 3.5mm headphones, or you can buy 3.5mm headphones with USB-C audio connection. There's no additional DAC involved, the analog audio is already on a USB-C pins.
- esarbe 1mo agoHow do you charge your phone while listening to music?
- tcfhgj 1mo agoput this on your music device: https://images.thalia.media/-/BF2000-2000/939d34e30a3d4f65873cb1eab2a4d3a9/renkforce-usb-c-audio-adapterkabel-1x-usb-c-stecker-1x-audio-stereo-3-5mm-klinke-usb-c-buchse-power-delivery-usb-c-renkforce.jpeg https://images.thalia.media/-/BF2000-2000/939d34e30a3d4f6587...
- ValdikSS 1mo agoWith a charging input + 3.5mm dongle? https://ae-pic-a1.aliexpress-media.com/kf/Sfa5566c711b14a4aa679a2e91e4c67a5b.jpg https://ae-pic-a1.aliexpress-media.com/kf/Sfa5566c711b14a4aa...
- artisinal 1mo agoSerial is a universal data interface that we've had for decades. Don't need RS232 on my phone though.
- somat 1mo agoBoy it would be nice however. On that note, I remember reading how some phones were able to use the headphone jack as a serial debug port, which is pretty neat. https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Serial_debugging/Cable_schematics https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Serial_debugging/Cable_sc...
- artisinal 1mo agoThe Apple 30-pin connector on the iPod and early iPhones had serial! That is how your car radio could display the name of the current track. https://theapplewiki.com/wiki/30-pin_Connector https://theapplewiki.com/wiki/30-pin_Connector
- coldpie 1mo agoGiven how severely that hard requirement restricts your available options, I'd suggest adapting to the USB-C audio world. No, it's not as nice as a headphone jack. But it is a relatively small con to just stick an adapter onto the ends of your 3.5mm devices and replace it a few times a year when it breaks. And yes, you can get a "charge and listen at the same time" adapter.