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I feel like there are so many cloistered people at these companies that they are left scratching their heads about what normies even want. Like, they literally

I feel like there are so many cloistered people at these companies that they are left scratching their heads about what normies even want. Like, they literally can't fathom basic stuff that isn't just highly consumer-oriented. I dunno, like applying for government services, paying your gas/elec bill without being confused af, keeping the dr up to date with your dad's illness, or how to get your newborn to sleep at 2am.

Maxion 29d ago
I will happily shout AGI from the rooftops the day I can turn on voice mode in ChatGPT and have the model calm down my toddler for a tantrum, or keep him from opening all the bananas instead of eating one. People in this thread arguing about AGI relating to Einstein problems and physics. Yeah no. When AI can handle toddlers then we're getting somewhere.
- tomaskafka 29d ago
  Helping your child navigate the world is the only remaining thing that makes you human. And you can already ask models to help you become better at it.
  - Cthulhu_ 29d ago
    It's like a (subset of a) generation of parents having youtube raise their kids. But it's probably an improvement over that!
    - ImaCake 26d ago
      It's actually a really interesting question to reckon with - can an AI help raise a child and is that good or bad? I suspect there are ways you can use the current frontier that elevate the child's experience, especially when it comes to education and creative play. On the flipside using one of these models to automate storytelling to your 3 year old is probably a bad idea... The tricky bit is where to draw the line? Is using an LLM to collaboratively build a story alongside the parent and the child bad? I don't know, I suspect not, but that is not a simple question to answer.
      - tomaskafka 26d ago
        I haven't watched, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_by_Wolves_(American_TV_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_by_Wolves_(American_TV_... seems to be exactly about this. It all comes down to whether you see time and attention spent with your kids as a nuisance or the best time you can ever have in your lifetime (I am team B). And as every child psychologist says, "attention is all you need" :).
        ImaCake 24d ago
        Well there is an upper bound of how much time you have available to spend with your child and how you spend that time. You could use an LLM when you can't be there (I suspect this is a bad idea), or you can use it collaboratively with your child (I suspect this is a good idea). I see it as similar to using a phone; your child on wikipedia is a different thing to your child on tiktok.
- torginus 29d ago
  Tablets are obsolete. The new generation of kids is going to be raised by a new generation of technology.
mike_hearn 29d ago
I feel like we read different blog posts. The announcement shows Astra filling out a tax form, looking for a kindergarten and apartment hunting. These are ordinary everyday tasks for normal people. It also shows lots of non-consumer stuff like financial modeling, genetic sequencing analysis and coding.

Maxion 29d ago

I will happily shout AGI from the rooftops the day I can turn on voice mode in ChatGPT and have the model calm down my toddler for a tantrum, or keep him from opening all the bananas instead of eating one. People in this thread arguing about AGI relating to Einstein problems and physics. Yeah no. When AI can handle toddlers then we're getting somewhere.

tomaskafka 29d ago
Helping your child navigate the world is the only remaining thing that makes you human. And you can already ask models to help you become better at it.
- Cthulhu_ 29d ago
  It's like a (subset of a) generation of parents having youtube raise their kids. But it's probably an improvement over that!
  - ImaCake 26d ago
    It's actually a really interesting question to reckon with - can an AI help raise a child and is that good or bad? I suspect there are ways you can use the current frontier that elevate the child's experience, especially when it comes to education and creative play. On the flipside using one of these models to automate storytelling to your 3 year old is probably a bad idea... The tricky bit is where to draw the line? Is using an LLM to collaboratively build a story alongside the parent and the child bad? I don't know, I suspect not, but that is not a simple question to answer.
    - tomaskafka 26d ago
      I haven't watched, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_by_Wolves_(American_TV_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raised_by_Wolves_(American_TV_... seems to be exactly about this. It all comes down to whether you see time and attention spent with your kids as a nuisance or the best time you can ever have in your lifetime (I am team B). And as every child psychologist says, "attention is all you need" :).
      - ImaCake 24d ago
        Well there is an upper bound of how much time you have available to spend with your child and how you spend that time. You could use an LLM when you can't be there (I suspect this is a bad idea), or you can use it collaboratively with your child (I suspect this is a good idea). I see it as similar to using a phone; your child on wikipedia is a different thing to your child on tiktok.
torginus 29d ago
Tablets are obsolete. The new generation of kids is going to be raised by a new generation of technology.

mike_hearn 29d ago

I feel like we read different blog posts. The announcement shows Astra filling out a tax form, looking for a kindergarten and apartment hunting. These are ordinary everyday tasks for normal people. It also shows lots of non-consumer stuff like financial modeling, genetic sequencing analysis and coding.