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> You did not link to any factual evidence that made any claim contrary to the facts: Every state has free voter IDs. You keep on repeating that. Your brain is
by hackyhacky 28d ago
> You did not link to any factual evidence that made any claim contrary to the facts: Every state has free voter IDs.
You keep on repeating that. Your brain is hyper-focused on "every state has free voter ID card". Meanwhile you are consistently ignoring the context: 10% of Americans don't have voter ID of any kind. No state issues voter ID automatically. Those Americans will be disenfranchised under a Republican voter ID law. Until you can solve the disenfranchisement issue, voter ID requirement cannot be supported.
> So not only do you now admit that free options exist, you're trying to claim they're irrelevant.
Whether or not they cost money is not the point. The point is whether getting them is an obstacle that will disenfranchise legal voters.
> I accept your defeat.
Lol are you literally 13 years old? You definitely act like it.
>>This makes no sense. "Walking distance" to what? I have never heard of or seen such a program. If they exist, they are not terribly effective, given that 10% of the population still lack a valid ID.
> "I haven't heard about it so it doesn't exist."
You didn't actually address my question. I asked "walking distance to what" because that obviously matters. And I didn't say they don't exist, I said that they aren't effective.
> That's exactly how it works in Europe, Czech Republic. If you don't have a copy, you request a new one.
No. In the Czech Republic, they are issued automatically because the government already has your birth certificate. Because IDs there are universal, there is a much lower barrier to entry. You dont know what you are talking about.
> That's not how it works in the US, you do not give away your birth certificate to a different part of the government.
You don't "give it away" and I didn't say that you did. You need to acquire your birth cert, then show it to the DMV. I don't even know why you would even argue this. You're just arguing to be argumentative. Again, you have the mind of a 13 year old.
> That's not why 10% don't have ID nor did I fail to address it. School is mandatory in the US yet 15% of Americans are illiterate.
Completely irrelevant comparison. In European countries, everyone has voter ID because the IDs are issued automatically, which does not happen in the US.
> You don't need a known audience to virtue signal to.
You are sad, pathetic person.
> You're not pursing justice, you're spew false propaganda and fighting a problem that doesn't exist.
Sad, without morals. Your low estimation of your fellow man reflects the weak state of your own conscience. You assume (falsely) that everyone is as self-interested as you are. I hope you find someone who can show you beauty and kindness in the world.
> That's not why they blocked the bill.
Citation needed.
> No country issues an ID automatically to anyone who makes a request. The ID is issued to you automatically after proving who you are. You don't need to petition the state with an attorney or pay a fee.
That's not what I said. Stop putting words in my mouth. At the point I can only include that you are intentionally misinterpreting me in order, I don't know, win internet points or just fill up your vacuous life.
Debating someone who is not interested in actually understnading the world but just incessantly repeating themselves like a dying insect is not rewarding for me or educational for you. So please grow up. Until then, I won't continue this conversation.
- throwawaypath 17d ago>You keep on repeating that. Your brain is hyper-focused on "every state has free voter ID card". Because it's my OP, a fact, and something that deeply triggers you because it shatters your false narrative. >Meanwhile you are consistently ignoring the context: 10% of Americans don't have voter ID of any kind. They're free to obtain in every state that requires voter IDs as I've stated multiple times. That's the context: they're free. >No state issues voter ID automatically. Every state issues IDs required for voting automatically. >Those Americans will be disenfranchised under a Republican voter ID law. No they won't. Various State, federal, and the US Supreme Court have upheld voter ID laws and have agreed they do not disenfranchise voters. >The point is whether getting them is an obstacle that will disenfranchise legal voters. Glad the US and various State governments agree it's not an obstacle that will disenfranchise legal voters. >Lol are you literally 13 years old? You definitely act like it. Wow you just got outsmarted by a 13 year old. Weird flex. >You didn't actually address my question. Yes I did. >No. In the Czech Republic, they are issued automatically because the government already has your birth certificate. False, Czech Republic requires you present a passport or birth certificate to obtain an ID card: https://dostupnyadvokat.cz/en/blog/identity-card https://dostupnyadvokat.cz/en/blog/identity-card >Because IDs there are universal, there is a much lower barrier to entry. Doesn't look like it. >You dont know what you are talking about. "You just proved me wrong but let me poorly try to deflect!" >You don't "give it away" and I didn't say that you did. You need to acquire your birth cert, then show it to the DMV. I don't even know why you would even argue this. You're just arguing to be argumentative. Your quote: "so they don't force you to acquire it and then give it back to a different part of the government." You literally stated "give it back" LOL! Your words, not mine. >Again, you have the mind of a 13 year old. Got outsmarted by a 13 year old again. >In European countries, everyone has voter ID because the IDs are issued automatically, which does not happen in the US. This is false, not every country in Europe has compulsory IDs. ID issuance is automatic in the US. >You are sad, pathetic person. Says the one arguing with a 13 year old, following them around in the comments because you got outsmarted. Projecting about being pathetic are we? >Citation needed. Literally your source. >win internet points or just fill up your vacuous life. Nowhere near as vacuous as following someone around in the comments and replyguying after proven wrong. >Debating someone who is not interested in actually understnading the world True, no one should be "debating" you. Glad I'm not, I'm just destroying you with facts. >So please grow up. Until then, I won't continue this conversation. Glad you admit defeat.