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Yea this was quite a post. There’s a lot of pointing at a post about immigration in England[1], and not that I agree, it wasn’t beyond the pale really. It was s

Yea this was quite a post. There’s a lot of pointing at a post about immigration in England[1], and not that I agree, it wasn’t beyond the pale really. It was standard stuff. This piece is really over the top though and makes it very clear he sees those unlike him as subhuman. 1: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64 https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64

mapontosevenths 1mo ago
I read it. I'm not sure I agree with your interpretation. I read it as pretty standard right-wing anti-immigration stuff. He even somewhat addresses it and tries to make it clear that he's not saying one race is better than another when he says: "There's absolutely nothing racist or xenophobic in saying that Denmark is primarily a country for the Danes, Britain primarily a united kingdom for the Brits, and Japan primarily a set of islands for the Japanese." I interpret him to be advocating for less immigration, and maybe some deportations of criminal types. He's allowed to. Personally, I disagree with him, but we're all adults. We're allowed to disagree and still respect each other. That's the basis of society. He's not advocating for violence and the hyperbole some people are coming up with is way overblown when compared to what he actually said. He is an average right-wing adult. Not some rabid fascist who wants death-camps.
- tzs 1mo ago
  By native Brits he means white people born in the UK [1]. People who are not white are not native Brits by his reckoning no matter how many generations their family has been there. I think that is a lot more extreme than the average UK right-wing adult. [1] Follow the link in his second paragraph and compare with the numbers he gives in that paragraph.
- Hikikomori 1mo ago
  The prey/predator analogy is what you'd find the der Sturmer nazi paper in the 30s. They also just wanted to deport the Jews, even worked with Zionists to do so in the early years. He can say write that the park camping and bush pooping is bad and that the police/government should do something about it, but he's not just writing that.
  - trescenzi 1mo ago
    Right the words you use matter. You don’t have to frame it as a predator/prey. You can write two different pieces on the two issues. Pairing them up makes it read pretty clear that he’s comparing the two because he wants to kill both of them. The paragraph at the end is sort of the whole game. It requires you to give him a huge benefit of the doubt and trust to not take it as basically calling for camps. > When wolves get out of control, you shoot them. When gypsies take over public spaces, you deport them. This isn't hard, it isn't cruel. It's the basic logic of self-preservation.
UncleMeat 1mo ago
Do you believe that the grandchildren of immigrants are not Londoners?

mapontosevenths 1mo ago

I read it. I'm not sure I agree with your interpretation. I read it as pretty standard right-wing anti-immigration stuff. He even somewhat addresses it and tries to make it clear that he's not saying one race is better than another when he says: "There's absolutely nothing racist or xenophobic in saying that Denmark is primarily a country for the Danes, Britain primarily a united kingdom for the Brits, and Japan primarily a set of islands for the Japanese." I interpret him to be advocating for less immigration, and maybe some deportations of criminal types. He's allowed to. Personally, I disagree with him, but we're all adults. We're allowed to disagree and still respect each other. That's the basis of society. He's not advocating for violence and the hyperbole some people are coming up with is way overblown when compared to what he actually said. He is an average right-wing adult. Not some rabid fascist who wants death-camps.

tzs 1mo ago
By native Brits he means white people born in the UK [1]. People who are not white are not native Brits by his reckoning no matter how many generations their family has been there. I think that is a lot more extreme than the average UK right-wing adult. [1] Follow the link in his second paragraph and compare with the numbers he gives in that paragraph.
Hikikomori 1mo ago
The prey/predator analogy is what you'd find the der Sturmer nazi paper in the 30s. They also just wanted to deport the Jews, even worked with Zionists to do so in the early years. He can say write that the park camping and bush pooping is bad and that the police/government should do something about it, but he's not just writing that.
- trescenzi 1mo ago
  Right the words you use matter. You don’t have to frame it as a predator/prey. You can write two different pieces on the two issues. Pairing them up makes it read pretty clear that he’s comparing the two because he wants to kill both of them. The paragraph at the end is sort of the whole game. It requires you to give him a huge benefit of the doubt and trust to not take it as basically calling for camps. > When wolves get out of control, you shoot them. When gypsies take over public spaces, you deport them. This isn't hard, it isn't cruel. It's the basic logic of self-preservation.

UncleMeat 1mo ago

Do you believe that the grandchildren of immigrants are not Londoners?