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For another comparison, top world class chess players will have solid odds to beat Leela Chess Zero when given a knight odds handicap (Leela Chess Zero starts w
by zamadatix 2mo ago
For another comparison, top world class chess players will have solid odds to beat Leela Chess Zero when given a knight odds handicap (Leela Chess Zero starts with 1 fewer knight). For human vs human, I think this would be somewhere in the ballpark of the ~10,000th best chess player having fair odds against Magnus.
I wonder if this means the best Go play is closer to theoretically perfect play or if it just happened the current computer methods didn't manage to get much farther than humans. Go has vastly more valid games but also a simpler ruleset, so I'm not sure if there is really a good way to tell beyond "keep trying and find out"?
- mafuy 2mo agoI'm not sure if I'm allowed to name the source on this here, but someone very familiar with the top Go program scene explained that there is a fair chance that a perfect game has been played already. This is based on the probability of a mistake per move in relation to the number of games there were played by top programs. Hard to believe at first, but perchance it is true. The problem is, of course, that we don't know which games are perfect.