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Can you please not be snarky in HN comments and not post shallow dismissals of other people's work? Both of these are in the site guidelines, as you must know:

by dang 1mo ago

Can you please not be snarky in HN comments and not post shallow dismissals of other people's work? Both of these are in the site guidelines, as you must know: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. There's room for thoughtful skepticism and critique, but not dismissive sarcasm, nor supercilious putdowns like "Yeah...", "just a joke", "yet another high wing puddle jumper". All that is exactly what we ask commenters to avoid on this site. As the guidelines say, "A good critical comment teaches us something." Your account unfortunately has a long history of breaking the site guidelines—enough, I'm afraid to say, that I instinctively brace myself when I see your username. We've asked you about this multiple times over the years: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29222114 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29222114 (Nov 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25697507 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25697507 (Jan 2021) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21094881 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21094881 (Sept 2019) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20314315 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20314315 (June 2019) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19469358 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19469358 (March 2019) If you wouldn't mind taking the intended spirit of this site more to heart and really correcting this pattern, we'd appreciate it. You're obviously knowledgeable and a good commenter apart from this, but it's a problem.

ajross 1mo ago
Fair enough. I'd view it as "florid" vs. "shallow", but it's not my opinion that matters and I fully agree that there's a spectrum between "strongly held" and "offensive" and you have to put the boundary somewhere. I'm going to push back on one bit though, which I suspect is just a misunderstanding on your part: "yet another high wing puddle jumper" is not remotely dismissive or trivializing! Being "high wing" is purely descriptive, and correct, and a "puddle jumper" is a widely used term for short-range passenger aircraft (like the Dash 8, which I also mentioned), here's a great reddit thread for reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/etymology/comments/rs7i4m/what_is_the_origin_of_the_term_puddle_jumper_for/ https://www.reddit.com/r/etymology/comments/rs7i4m/what_is_t... I'm not saying this to make the designers feel bad verbally. I'm literally saying they've produced an aircraft that competes poorly in the market with something DeHavilland was selling in the 1980's. My first sentence was almost 100% sarcasm though and I'll take the hit on that.
- dang 1mo ago
  I take your points on "high wing" and "puddle jumper", especially the latter since I didn't know the term. But "yet another" is still a dismissive swipe! I appreciate the reply.

by dang 1mo ago

ajross 1mo ago

Fair enough. I'd view it as "florid" vs. "shallow", but it's not my opinion that matters and I fully agree that there's a spectrum between "strongly held" and "offensive" and you have to put the boundary somewhere. I'm going to push back on one bit though, which I suspect is just a misunderstanding on your part: "yet another high wing puddle jumper" is not remotely dismissive or trivializing! Being "high wing" is purely descriptive, and correct, and a "puddle jumper" is a widely used term for short-range passenger aircraft (like the Dash 8, which I also mentioned), here's a great reddit thread for reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/etymology/comments/rs7i4m/what_is_the_origin_of_the_term_puddle_jumper_for/ https://www.reddit.com/r/etymology/comments/rs7i4m/what_is_t... I'm not saying this to make the designers feel bad verbally. I'm literally saying they've produced an aircraft that competes poorly in the market with something DeHavilland was selling in the 1980's. My first sentence was almost 100% sarcasm though and I'll take the hit on that.

dang 1mo ago
I take your points on "high wing" and "puddle jumper", especially the latter since I didn't know the term. But "yet another" is still a dismissive swipe! I appreciate the reply.