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I'd prefer to stay within the [hacker ethics](https://www.ccc.de/en/hackerethics https://www.ccc.de/en/hackerethics), and protect private data. For non-private/

• embedding-shape 29d ago
  Me too, I'm hacker ethics all the way, which is why I'm saying anything network connected should really realize the "All information should be free." dream, and then private data should be far away from the internet, on computers/drives not even connected to the internet. The whole E2E encryption is a ticking time bomb people rely to keep their data safe from others, but nothing that you don't physically have close to you can be truly secret forever, and even then it'll be hard.
  • Caracas288 28d ago
    Exactly, and right now we have the worst of both worlds with companies blatantly ignoring copyright, but individuals prosecuted for violating it.
  • chme 28d ago
    Well... If someone leaks private data on individuals online, those should be deleted.
    • embedding-shape 28d ago
      > If someone leaks private data on individuals online That won't be possible anymore, anything on the internet would be considered public, it's no longer considered private if you didn't keep it private.
      • chme 28d ago
        That sounds dystopian to me and is against the hacker ethics.
        • embedding-shape 28d ago
          Letting information that want to be free, be free, sounds exactly like the hacker ethics to myself, and the link you shared earlier would agree.
          • chme 27d ago
            The last point is pretty clear, and the text below clarifies it: > To protect the privacy of the individual and to strengthen the freedom of the information which concern the public the yet last point was added. The privacy of individuals is important, regardless where they store their private data. Their account information -- what they buy, their medical information and so on is stored on servers and could be hacked.
            • embedding-shape 27d ago
              > The last point is pretty clear I think the second point is equally clear, and further up on the list. I agree that what people buy, their medical information and so on should be private, hence it should only be offline and not stored/handled on computers connected to the internet at all, the internet should be for public data exclusively, is my argument in the initial comment. Medical information would be only on effectively airgapped computers, as that data should be private, as you say.
              • chme 27d ago
                So you say it is okay when someone you trust, uses that trust to upload your personal files from your air-gapped system to the internet, for everyone to freely share it, because now the data is "public"? To me private file stay private, even if they get leaked onto the open or closed internet, because the public has no right to know them, they are private data of an individual. They might no longer be secret, but they are still private.
                • embedding-shape 27d ago
                  I'm talking about liking waffles, then you appear asking why I hate pancakes. Fun. > To me private file stay private, even if they get leaked onto the open or closed internet We have very different definitions of what "private" means. Once it's leaked, it's no longer private, and pretending it can go back to being "private" after being on the public internet, is doing no one any favors.
    • Muromec 28d ago
      If you move data between public and private domain and there is no eruv wire around it, you get deported to Singapore.