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Well no one said it yet so I will, "international actors" is at least a possibility. And I don't mean any specific country because pretty much anyone is a poten

by niobe 29d ago

Well no one said it yet so I will, "international actors" is at least a possibility. And I don't mean any specific country because pretty much anyone is a potential these days, which makes it a perfect cover for different anyones. Demonstrating vulnerability in the US's AI boom can move the markets. That's a financial incentive and a strong geopolitical one. More likely just cascading overload though: "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence", or in this case, "growing as fast as possible"

gleenn 29d ago
Everyone is leasing datacenter space from some of Grok, Google, and Amazon aren't they? If it's hardware or DC level disruption I'm not too surprised it can affect multiple providers.
- pixl97 29d ago
  Also it's likely that more than one model use is common. Amazon starts going slow so some percentage switches to Google, some switch to Grok, now all of them are slow.
sixQuarks 29d ago
Except that the stock market is up today
qurren 29d ago
> cascading overload I'd bet more on this. For one none of the coding tools have exponential backoff on retries
- SyneRyder 29d ago
  They must do, surely? I've been vibe coding my own harness, in particular for use with Ox Alpha. The 429 downtime when Ox Alpha was at the height of popularity quickly gave me a refresher crash course on backoff strategies, like adding jitter to the backoff. At least the major harnesses must have exponential backoff & jitter?
  - jdiff 29d ago
    You did this when you ran into an issue with a third party. The developers building this tool, throwing them at their own APIs are significantly less likely to run into a similar issue that may inspire similar action.
- deleted 29d ago
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- dolmen 29d ago
  Claude Code: 4mn, 20mn, give up (from my experience today)
riazrizvi 29d ago
Come on. Things still break. Technology isn't _that_ mature.
thataccount 29d ago
And also China. Never rule out China.
guluarte 29d ago
I think is just people restarting conversations from last day when they start work, that's why I think claude goes down almost every monday and why openai reset usage on weekends so poweruser code during non business hours

by niobe 29d ago

gleenn 29d ago

Everyone is leasing datacenter space from some of Grok, Google, and Amazon aren't they? If it's hardware or DC level disruption I'm not too surprised it can affect multiple providers.

pixl97 29d ago
Also it's likely that more than one model use is common. Amazon starts going slow so some percentage switches to Google, some switch to Grok, now all of them are slow.

sixQuarks 29d ago

Except that the stock market is up today

qurren 29d ago

> cascading overload I'd bet more on this. For one none of the coding tools have exponential backoff on retries

SyneRyder 29d ago
They must do, surely? I've been vibe coding my own harness, in particular for use with Ox Alpha. The 429 downtime when Ox Alpha was at the height of popularity quickly gave me a refresher crash course on backoff strategies, like adding jitter to the backoff. At least the major harnesses must have exponential backoff & jitter?
- jdiff 29d ago
  You did this when you ran into an issue with a third party. The developers building this tool, throwing them at their own APIs are significantly less likely to run into a similar issue that may inspire similar action.
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dolmen 29d ago
Claude Code: 4mn, 20mn, give up (from my experience today)

riazrizvi 29d ago

Come on. Things still break. Technology isn't _that_ mature.

thataccount 29d ago

And also China. Never rule out China.

guluarte 29d ago

I think is just people restarting conversations from last day when they start work, that's why I think claude goes down almost every monday and why openai reset usage on weekends so poweruser code during non business hours