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- I don't have a good answer for you about how I started, I just got the compiler running and started writing code. A BST, as it so happened. - I don't claim t

by pnathan 14y ago

- I don't have a good answer for you about how I started, I just got the compiler running and started writing code. A BST, as it so happened. - I don't claim to understand the memory model entirely, but I think I have a grasp on it. This is due to my knowing C++ and having a grasp of the lambda calculus. WRT libraries, it's not a mature language. It's not going to have the tens of thousands of libraries like Perl. I would recommend writing applications that fall into a functional programming/low level area, but that's just me. There's Servo, a research web browser. Finally, I don't recommend comparing Rust with Go. Two languages and two different design goals. A better compare would be with D or OCaml.

dysoco 14y ago
How is D or OCaml more Rust-like than Go? Can you explain?
- pnathan 14y ago
  Rust is basically ML + C's lovechild. Sophisticated type inference, mostly pure variables, pattern matching lambda functions, a few other FP goodies. But it's also a fairly clean imperative language if you care to use it like that. Generics, mutable variables, {}; syntax, pointers, etc. Also, more fundamentally, I see D, OCaml, and Rust as occupying a "let's be clean" kind of space. I see Go as occupying a "let's be scruffy" space; not really pushing the language state of the art, focused on industrial work; it's like a type-safer & compiled python, afaict. It doesn't really strive to push the state of the art, it seeks to solidify certain well-known taken ground in programming language design, and to be really focused on that. I'm not going to apply a "better" metric, I don't think that's appropriate because they are occupying different areas in the design space with different goals. If they were posed as straight-up competitors, then it'd be appropriate to measure them against each other.
  - dysoco 14y ago
    I'll have to check Rust then, seems interesting. Although I see Go as a clean language: A "better" C and D as a "cleaner C++".

by pnathan 14y ago

dysoco 14y ago

How is D or OCaml more Rust-like than Go? Can you explain?

pnathan 14y ago
Rust is basically ML + C's lovechild. Sophisticated type inference, mostly pure variables, pattern matching lambda functions, a few other FP goodies. But it's also a fairly clean imperative language if you care to use it like that. Generics, mutable variables, {}; syntax, pointers, etc. Also, more fundamentally, I see D, OCaml, and Rust as occupying a "let's be clean" kind of space. I see Go as occupying a "let's be scruffy" space; not really pushing the language state of the art, focused on industrial work; it's like a type-safer & compiled python, afaict. It doesn't really strive to push the state of the art, it seeks to solidify certain well-known taken ground in programming language design, and to be really focused on that. I'm not going to apply a "better" metric, I don't think that's appropriate because they are occupying different areas in the design space with different goals. If they were posed as straight-up competitors, then it'd be appropriate to measure them against each other.
- dysoco 14y ago
  I'll have to check Rust then, seems interesting. Although I see Go as a clean language: A "better" C and D as a "cleaner C++".