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You edited your comment substantially. About the two links you originally posted: I read them just before commenting here. It's a common (especially recently)
by ShinyLeftPad 1mo ago
You edited your comment substantially.
About the two links you originally posted: I read them just before commenting here. It's a common (especially recently) view about immigrants in many countries. In Europe and USA it's a common politically conservative view, in PRC, Korea, Japan, Russia it's more mainstream.
Not something I fully support. I disagree about disliking let alone deporting immigrants just because they're different or because of the skin color. However, I can see an issue when immigration significantly worsens tragedy of the commons. My view as I mentioned in some other thread before is that it's not unreasonable to expect an immigrant to culturally integrate (note that this doesn't mean abandoning religion or traditions) and speak local language. I guess DHH may be more conservative than me, but comparing it to German Nazi seems a stretch. Also, nearly half of Europeans I come across in my experience have similar views.
I'll read the other links in a bit, thanks!
- Sammi 1mo agoYeah I found more stuff when I searched farther.
- ShinyLeftPad 1mo agoBased on your summaries, I stand by my opinion. The average conservative European is against trans weeks (no opinion), may agree that some cultures can never integrate (I disagree), may claim that some people are culturally incompatible because their parents are from some countries (this may be the worst, and I disagree), may claim that London is no longer full of Brits (contrary to your summary of it census puts a number on Brits of any skin color-59%-but I disagree that it is in itself an issue), would classify the grooming gang scandal as a Muslim-related issue (no opinion, as far as I recall Mohammed's recorded sayings discount harm to non-believers but no idea if that played any significant role), dislikes gypsies' effect on public places (I heard similar stuff from other Europeans, personally I don't have anything against gypsies and disagree with stressing ethnicity, but haven't lived where their presence is noticeable and IMO it's not unreasonable to expect integration from immigrants), etc. These don't seem like extreme views even if I don't support them. It's clear I don't agree with him but if there was a smoking gun that made his opinions too extreme considering mainstream I'm sure they would surface in your summaries. Not sure it's 1930 German Nazi level bad, though him being a bit famous makes it worse. I can see why some people may feel like they want to switch providers. luckily I don't use 1password. Thanks!
- tim333 1mo ago30s Germany was way worse.