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There are currently 20 root level comments. 8 have been flagged. Which is again starting to look a lot like Reddit. Some of those flags are quite reasonable, b

There are currently 20 root level comments. 8 have been flagged. Which is again starting to look a lot like Reddit. Some of those flags are quite reasonable, but some are not. And this happens every single time you have a thread that brings out the partisan flaggers, which will discourage future conversation from those that did bother to try to discuss and got hit by them. Absent the flaggers existence, you'd have a ratio of discussion that would much more closely resemble what we see in things like support polls. But with it, you end up with an echo chamber that is not only uninformative, but malinformative because you now have absolutely no clue what people are thinking, why they're thinking that, what their relative numbers may be, or any opportunity to try to change their mind. So you just end up with polarization and both sides radicalizing themselves as they end up in echo chambers where a partisan view is taken as the baseline for normal.

LeBit 1mo ago
If the quality comments that have been flagged are like what you see on /r/conservative , it might be that you subjectively see quality where others see something else. Can you point at the well thought out rebuttal that have been victim of flagging?
- wallst07 1mo ago
  You don't get it, or are not following through. The thread started with why a Conservative wouldn't post here. It's simple, it's not worth getting comments downvoted or flagged for having an unpopular opinion [not nationally but here]. You will say it's not a reasonable opinion, it's hate or fear and should be downvoted/flagged, but that is incorrect and exactly what leads to echo chambers. Which is ironic because HN is usually very pro-speech/thought... or used to be.
  - Capricorn2481 1mo ago
    I can assure you plenty of conservative views get shared on HN, all the time. Saying otherwise means you must not be on here much. It's just that defending the current administration, at this state, does take a level of bad faith that people on all sides of the political spectrum are sick of hearing. To imply it's only hardcore liberals flagging these comments is wishful thinking
    - wallst07 1mo ago
      "defending the current administration, at this state, does take a level of bad faith" So every topic regarding current administration is a bad faith argument on the proponent side? Or just this one?

LeBit 1mo ago

If the quality comments that have been flagged are like what you see on /r/conservative , it might be that you subjectively see quality where others see something else. Can you point at the well thought out rebuttal that have been victim of flagging?

wallst07 1mo ago
You don't get it, or are not following through. The thread started with why a Conservative wouldn't post here. It's simple, it's not worth getting comments downvoted or flagged for having an unpopular opinion [not nationally but here]. You will say it's not a reasonable opinion, it's hate or fear and should be downvoted/flagged, but that is incorrect and exactly what leads to echo chambers. Which is ironic because HN is usually very pro-speech/thought... or used to be.
- Capricorn2481 1mo ago
  I can assure you plenty of conservative views get shared on HN, all the time. Saying otherwise means you must not be on here much. It's just that defending the current administration, at this state, does take a level of bad faith that people on all sides of the political spectrum are sick of hearing. To imply it's only hardcore liberals flagging these comments is wishful thinking
  - wallst07 1mo ago
    "defending the current administration, at this state, does take a level of bad faith" So every topic regarding current administration is a bad faith argument on the proponent side? Or just this one?