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Given Uber is one of the few companies who are lucky enough to have a separate page for all the controversies on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contro

Given Uber is one of the few companies who are lucky enough to have a separate page for all the controversies on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_surrounding_Uber https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_surrounding_Uber), they also have their own fair of experience with police raids on their offices. They've also used "‘kill switch’ during raids to stop police seeing data" (https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/jul/10/uber-files-leak-reveals-global-lobbying-campaign https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/jul/10/uber-files-leak...) before, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was some sort of legal "kill switch" or whatever that got triggered, so they can get rid of everything faster.

bossyTeacher 1mo ago
> They've also used "‘kill switch’ during raids to stop police seeing data If Uber wasn't a VC backed company, they would have been charged with destruction of evidence or similar.
- minraws 1mo ago
  They likely were but Companies don't go to jail they pay fines
  - abdullahkhalids 1mo ago
    Shops and factories can be temporarily shut down if they don't comply with regulations. Businesses that require licenses like law practices may similarly have to stop operations. That is half of going to jail. Unfortunately, the growth potential that software industry generally provides has generally prevented governments for creating and enforcing similar laws for software products and such.
    - johndhi 1mo ago
      How does growth potential relate to legal enforcement?
      - UnfitFootprint 1mo ago
        The way everybody involved makes money
      - abdullahkhalids 1mo ago
        In the current system, political parties who do things that stop the economy growing are usually voted out, more than political parties that refuse to take action against nebulous criminal activity. That's why, for example, my city refuses to do anything to stop the factories in the city from dumping waste into the river.
      - classified 1mo ago
        In the US, "printing money" is the most sacred act there is. If you're doing that, laws suddenly don't apply.
  - linkregister 1mo ago
    Various Uber city team managers have spent time in jail.
    - minraws 1mo ago
      Unless you throw the investors and senior executives in jail how do you intend to do anything more than performative dance with these measures. I personally think countries should start sanctioning and international warrants for all large investors and senior executives in a company if something like this happens. But it won't happen unless US changes their stance on companies being liability shiled. Sure it should require very exceptional cases but I know companies whose negligence has cost lives of hundreds of people, the reason they and all their investors weren't jailed is the real scam of the democraciez we have gifted ourselves.
    - classified 1mo ago
      That sort of thing is called a sacrificial pawn.
- linkregister 1mo ago
  The manager of Uber Paris was jailed for just that.

bossyTeacher 1mo ago

> They've also used "‘kill switch’ during raids to stop police seeing data If Uber wasn't a VC backed company, they would have been charged with destruction of evidence or similar.

minraws 1mo ago
They likely were but Companies don't go to jail they pay fines
- abdullahkhalids 1mo ago
  Shops and factories can be temporarily shut down if they don't comply with regulations. Businesses that require licenses like law practices may similarly have to stop operations. That is half of going to jail. Unfortunately, the growth potential that software industry generally provides has generally prevented governments for creating and enforcing similar laws for software products and such.
  - johndhi 1mo ago
    How does growth potential relate to legal enforcement?
    - UnfitFootprint 1mo ago
      The way everybody involved makes money
    - abdullahkhalids 1mo ago
      In the current system, political parties who do things that stop the economy growing are usually voted out, more than political parties that refuse to take action against nebulous criminal activity. That's why, for example, my city refuses to do anything to stop the factories in the city from dumping waste into the river.
    - classified 1mo ago
      In the US, "printing money" is the most sacred act there is. If you're doing that, laws suddenly don't apply.
- linkregister 1mo ago
  Various Uber city team managers have spent time in jail.
  - minraws 1mo ago
    Unless you throw the investors and senior executives in jail how do you intend to do anything more than performative dance with these measures. I personally think countries should start sanctioning and international warrants for all large investors and senior executives in a company if something like this happens. But it won't happen unless US changes their stance on companies being liability shiled. Sure it should require very exceptional cases but I know companies whose negligence has cost lives of hundreds of people, the reason they and all their investors weren't jailed is the real scam of the democraciez we have gifted ourselves.
  - classified 1mo ago
    That sort of thing is called a sacrificial pawn.
linkregister 1mo ago
The manager of Uber Paris was jailed for just that.