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It's like banning teachers or textbooks from school. LLMs are the single greatest learning technology ever created.
by charcircuit 1mo ago
It's like banning teachers or textbooks from school. LLMs are the single greatest learning technology ever created.
- anon7000 1mo agoIf kids use them for learning and not just cheating. You have to learn how to learn and how to think for yourself before you can do that
- charcircuit 1mo agoLLMs can teach you that too. You do not need to learn that first.
- wyre 1mo agoThey can, but I don't think we are there yet. No need to sending taxpayer dollars to silicon valley on educating the next generation using a new technology that hasn't proven itself in education yet.
- wildzzz 1mo agoLLMs greatly remove the social aspect of the teacher-student relationship. They are probably fine for tutoring and replacing things like Khan Academy but they are no substitute for a human teacher.
- mushi_shi 1mo agoAre you sure that taking shortcuts to information isn't potentially doing more damage to learning?
- baby_souffle 1mo agoBeing able to access information faster is not really a problem. I don't know anybody that was super upset that the encyclopedia came on a bunch of CD roms instead of bound volumes. Not having the skills to assess the accuracy / validity of the information you accessed at breakneck speed however is going to be the downfall of us all. Ai just made it easier to generate misinformation faster. We were already suffering from the blight of misinformation spreading through various media channels. If AI can be used to better teach effective media and information literacy, we should be rolling that out in schools. But it sounds like AI in public schools is largely just being used for speed running homework.
- WCSTombs 1mo agoYeah, it's the speed-running homework and unchecked potential for misinformation that are really problematic. I agree that if it was only a more efficient and accessible repository of information, it wouldn't be nearly as bad, and that's partly what I was getting at in my top-comment (the "may be a version of AI that helps people learn" part).
- jansport123 1mo agotechnology seems to bifurcate outcomes - the top students seem to get much better than previous cohorts but the rest of them seem to get a lot worse.
- charcircuit 1mo agoI don't want the government to be forcing people into the worse outcome just to make outcomes more equal.
- Zetaphor 1mo agoSaying that a human teacher is equivalent to an LLM is derogatory to the teachers and exaggerating the capabilities of the LLM. I say this as someone who uses these things daily in my work and personal life. Let's not murky the waters with complete falsehoods
- charcircuit 1mo agoLLMs have been better than many teachers I've had in my life. To no fault of the teachers, it's hard to compete with something that has understanding of every subject, is hooked up to the internet, and is given 1:1 time with the person learning at any time of the day, answering promptly.
- bnj 1mo agoLLMs have enormous capacity for supporting a person who is motivated to learn and wants individualized support and instruction. That doesn’t describe all students and there’s no reason why seat time in the classroom should be used that way - students can still use an LLM to help them learn if they’re motivated to do that, but not during class.
- wildzzz 1mo agoSure, classroom sizes can be a detriment to those that require more hands on instruction time. But that's not everyone and not every school suffers from overcrowding.
- UtopiaPunk 1mo agoLLMs are also more flattering
- andrekandre 1mo agoyour absolutely right!
- rjrjrjrj 1mo agoConfidently pretends to have understanding of every subject but is frequently spectacularly wrong