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I don't consider it a strawman. Do you understand what hyperbole is? When people say "everyone is X"... they very rarely actually mean the literal definition of

I don't consider it a strawman. Do you understand what hyperbole is? When people say "everyone is X"... they very rarely actually mean the literal definition of everyone. Words are not always used in a rigid black-and-white manner according to their definition... understanding and being able to deal with this, without getting angry or trying to "correct" people, is what makes for good social etiquette IMO.

krapp 1mo ago
Hyperbole is as useless to productive conversation as strawmen and one is usually just an excuse to prop up the other. Maybe you could tell us what, specifically, the author refers to as fascist that you don't consider to be fascist?
- majorchord 1mo ago
  My understanding is that they are referring to DHH lamenting that his race is becoming a minority in his home country due to mass immigration. Is it fascist to not want to become a minority based on how we see them often treated badly? I think it's normal to fear that.
  - krapp 1mo ago
    Yes, it is. Racial essentialism, xenophobia and white supremacy are all fascist. Praising and supporting right-wing extremists is fascist. Believing in ethnic cleansing and that non-whites need to be forcibly removed is fascist. Believing all non-Christian religion needs to be banned is fascist. Equating "gypsies" to dogs is fascist. When you believe the things that fascists believe, it is accurate to call you a fascist. Obviously, you will disagree with my interpretation and the interpretation of many others, and I'm not interested in having that argument, because I know it will be futile. The point is that your original hyperbolic assertion that the author had no rationale for considering DHH to be fascist other than pure arbitrary spite is incorrect. They have a rationale, you just disagree with it.
    - majorchord 1mo ago
      > your original hyperbolic assertion that the author had no rationale for considering DHH to be fascist I did not assert there was no rationale, and that was never my intent. > When you believe the things that fascists believe, it is accurate to call you a fascist. I never claimed to believe any of the things that "fascists believe".
    - tranp49 1mo ago
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thrance 1mo ago
Ok, then let's strip your original comment of its hyperbole: > Why does "some of the things I disagree with are fascists" seem to be a common trope among certain walks of life? Seems pretty reasonable to me. Now, to make an actual argument: do you contest that a lot of leaders in tech are ideologically fascists or do you contest that this is an issue?

krapp 1mo ago

Hyperbole is as useless to productive conversation as strawmen and one is usually just an excuse to prop up the other. Maybe you could tell us what, specifically, the author refers to as fascist that you don't consider to be fascist?

majorchord 1mo ago
My understanding is that they are referring to DHH lamenting that his race is becoming a minority in his home country due to mass immigration. Is it fascist to not want to become a minority based on how we see them often treated badly? I think it's normal to fear that.
- krapp 1mo ago
  Yes, it is. Racial essentialism, xenophobia and white supremacy are all fascist. Praising and supporting right-wing extremists is fascist. Believing in ethnic cleansing and that non-whites need to be forcibly removed is fascist. Believing all non-Christian religion needs to be banned is fascist. Equating "gypsies" to dogs is fascist. When you believe the things that fascists believe, it is accurate to call you a fascist. Obviously, you will disagree with my interpretation and the interpretation of many others, and I'm not interested in having that argument, because I know it will be futile. The point is that your original hyperbolic assertion that the author had no rationale for considering DHH to be fascist other than pure arbitrary spite is incorrect. They have a rationale, you just disagree with it.
  - majorchord 1mo ago
    > your original hyperbolic assertion that the author had no rationale for considering DHH to be fascist I did not assert there was no rationale, and that was never my intent. > When you believe the things that fascists believe, it is accurate to call you a fascist. I never claimed to believe any of the things that "fascists believe".
  - tranp49 1mo ago
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thrance 1mo ago

Ok, then let's strip your original comment of its hyperbole: > Why does "some of the things I disagree with are fascists" seem to be a common trope among certain walks of life? Seems pretty reasonable to me. Now, to make an actual argument: do you contest that a lot of leaders in tech are ideologically fascists or do you contest that this is an issue?