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Other people do fork Firefox though, like Zen browser https://zen-browser.app/ https://zen-browser.app/ https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop https://github.

Other people do fork Firefox though, like Zen browser https://zen-browser.app/ https://zen-browser.app/ https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop

p-e-w 24d ago
There are a lot of good community forks of Chromium also. And no, a fork of Chromium isn’t “the same as Chrome”.
- nik282000 24d ago
  Chromium forks are not the same as Chrome but it does help Alphabet keep a strangle hold on the render engine ecology. And eithr way, monocultures are bad, a surprise vulnerability could nuke 70% of users overnight, which could be partiularly bad with features like WebSerial and WebUSB.
  - unloader6118 24d ago
    What does "keep a strangle hold on the render engine ecology" even meant? Does "make Firefox compatible with more web site" make chrome stronger? A thought experiment: if Firefox can use all chrome extension, does this make chrome stronger? I guess yes, right? What makes a website different from extension? [ I am trying to show the "chrome ecology" argument is ridiculous, not saying we show stop supporting website ]
    - wlesieutre 24d ago
      It's like IE6 was - whatever Google/Chrome wants to do effectively becomes mandatory because nearly everyone is using it. Firefox has to follow along because of all the web developers who only test things in Chrome and expect all browsers to work exactly like Chrome does. If anything about your browser is different, a website doesn't work, and if you complain the response will be "We don't support Firefox, you should use Chrome or Edge instead."
autoexec 24d ago
A lot of existing forks are just Firefox with a couple features added or removed. It's very different from a fork that continues being independently developed as a separate project.
- bluGill 24d ago
  All the existing "forks" that continue past adding/removing that one feature are regularly merging firefox back. That is they are not a fork there are a derivative that never forked. All the forks that remain a fork that I've seen die within a few months.

Other people do fork Firefox though, like Zen browser https://zen-browser.app/ https://zen-browser.app/ https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop

p-e-w 24d ago

There are a lot of good community forks of Chromium also. And no, a fork of Chromium isn’t “the same as Chrome”.

nik282000 24d ago
Chromium forks are not the same as Chrome but it does help Alphabet keep a strangle hold on the render engine ecology. And eithr way, monocultures are bad, a surprise vulnerability could nuke 70% of users overnight, which could be partiularly bad with features like WebSerial and WebUSB.
- unloader6118 24d ago
  What does "keep a strangle hold on the render engine ecology" even meant? Does "make Firefox compatible with more web site" make chrome stronger? A thought experiment: if Firefox can use all chrome extension, does this make chrome stronger? I guess yes, right? What makes a website different from extension? [ I am trying to show the "chrome ecology" argument is ridiculous, not saying we show stop supporting website ]
  - wlesieutre 24d ago
    It's like IE6 was - whatever Google/Chrome wants to do effectively becomes mandatory because nearly everyone is using it. Firefox has to follow along because of all the web developers who only test things in Chrome and expect all browsers to work exactly like Chrome does. If anything about your browser is different, a website doesn't work, and if you complain the response will be "We don't support Firefox, you should use Chrome or Edge instead."

autoexec 24d ago

A lot of existing forks are just Firefox with a couple features added or removed. It's very different from a fork that continues being independently developed as a separate project.

bluGill 24d ago
All the existing "forks" that continue past adding/removing that one feature are regularly merging firefox back. That is they are not a fork there are a derivative that never forked. All the forks that remain a fork that I've seen die within a few months.